SPEAKER_04: 0:17

Hi, welcome back to another episode of the Trinity Trophies Podcast. Three brothers, three perspectives, and one mission where we keep it real. Today we're gonna talk about a few different things, and if you've been rocking with us, you know we switched up our flow a little bit. So today we're gonna start out with a topic, and we're gonna talk a little bit about some unpopular opinions, right? Yup. So, did y'all get a chance to review? Y'all got some unpopular opinions y'all wanna talk about?

SPEAKER_02: 0:43

Really grinds my gears.

SPEAKER_04: 0:44

Man, look, because I feel like it's a lot of things cats don't say to go with the crowd. But it's a lot of things like that I know I disagree with when it comes to the public eye. Such as Yeah, same. I'm probably gonna rub a couple folks the wrong way. But me personally, right, especially as somebody who recently got married, I never understood the pressure to get married from people who don't necessarily believe like in religion. Because if you trip off like where marriage came from, like the foundation is religious, right? So I never really understood like the obsession with it. Right? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01: 1:31

They read the vows from the Bible.

SPEAKER_04: 1:34

That's what I don't understand. Like you get a preacher, they come up and they even if you don't get a preacher, you get let's say you get a friend, right? Because some people don't go that route. Some people get just somebody they know that's cool to to marry them or whatever, but they usually start with the vows from the Bible, right? That's usually kind of how people seal things together.

SPEAKER_02: 1:49

It is though. It's other religions that believe in marriage.

SPEAKER_04: 1:52

But even so, they usually are based in spirituality, right? They're usually based in like a belief system. I say that. But it's a lot of people who are like atheists or agnostic that don't really have like that belief system, and they, you know what I'm saying, they move a little different. Cause like every, like you said, like there are different cultures that have different weddings. I'm more so talking about, you know, our culture, American culture, right? So I just never understood that. Like, and I've said that to many people. They be like, well, people can get married if they want to. I ain't never I ain't say that. Yeah, you absolutely can. You do what you want. I just didn't necessarily understood, I don't understand the obsession with it.

SPEAKER_02: 2:26

You know what I'm saying? Some people look at it as just a social contract. It's not, it has it doesn't, they believe it doesn't have to do, anything to do with God and the religion. It's just a contract between me and this other person. So that's why they probably look at it from their standpoint.

SPEAKER_04: 2:45

Shit. I mean, you could do that with anybody. But you know, with any piece of paper, any piece of paper you go get notarized is technically a contract. You know what I'm saying? Like at that point, I I just I don't understand the formal I'm getting a dress, I'm getting a tuxedo. We either go into a church or we go into something that resembles like an altar where we're going to, you know what I'm saying, dedicate our lives to do that.

SPEAKER_01: 3:07

It's psychological, bro. You think about people that believe that they're so in love and marriage is the next thing. It's not about God at that point. It's a way of life. Some people it's just something, it's that dream that they had.

SPEAKER_04: 3:26

But that's what I don't understand. Cause like if you break, like, I guess it's the definition of a situation, right? Because if I call myself something, I relate to it. I know, I know what it represents, right? So, like, whether it was no matter what you claim, no matter what label you've given yourself, you have some type of meaning behind it, right? Even with me, like if I say I'm a Christian, that means practicing that, or I go to church, or like you know what I'm saying? Like, you there's stuff that comes with that. So if I say I'm getting married, like understanding that the definition of it is covenant, right? And usually a covenant between that couple and God. So I don't understand the purpose of calling it a marriage or wanting to get married if that's not what you're doing in the first place. Call it something else. You know what I'm saying? Like, I I I get what you're saying as far as the social construct, but don't that mean that you're just doing it for the hell of it? You're not really doing it because of the meaning behind it. You're doing it because of the name. It's because of their meaning. It's not so you're giving it a new meaning. You redefining us. That's what I'm that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm making something that society does. No, but you redefining it. That's what society does.

SPEAKER_01: 4:33

No, because I'm That's fair, but in in most people's eyes, that's not what marriage is. Marriage isn't about God. You know what I'm saying? Most people believe marriage is about love and marriage is about tying this knot with their partner. You know what I'm saying? It ain't about God.

SPEAKER_02: 4:52

I think that's a good poll. Like what is most people? Yeah, I was I would think some it would be probably 60, 40, the opposite way.

SPEAKER_01: 5:00

Yeah, I do too. But I but most people would feel that way. You know what I'm saying? Like people that really didn't think about it that way. And then you brought it to them, they like, oh wow, you know what I'm saying? Like, I guess that's what messed me up about it.

SPEAKER_04: 5:13

Like, we do so much stuff that's just kind of culture. Like, we don't really, yeah, we just be doing stuff. But I guess that goes back into like what we used to do as kids, like the stuff we used to wear, like the style of the clothes, the music we used to listen to. We ain't really had no rhyme or reason why we were specifically doing it. We was just doing it because everybody doing it. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody I had to like it. But see, I feel like the reason you was even introduced to it, though, is because of popularity. It wasn't like you didn't stumble upon 50 Cent. It's because everybody was listening to 50 Cent. And so, you know what I'm saying? Like nowadays, you had an ability to discover new talent because it's saturated market. Most of us hear these art, heard like artists around the same time, whether they premiered on a radio or like a music video or something. I beg to differ. Why you say that? I didn't hear 50 Cent from nobody. Well, no, I'm not him specifically, I'm just saying, like, usually generally back then it was different.

SPEAKER_01: 6:07

For me, yeah, I mean, I saw him on TV. Yeah. But I saw him throwing away a gyrol doll. So then I heard him talking about weight.

SPEAKER_00: 6:17

And I was just like, at first I was like, that's a weak ass song.

SPEAKER_01: 6:21

But when I when I did some history out there, I was like, yeah, that is hilarious. So I I kind of learned stuff by myself.

SPEAKER_04: 6:27

But that, see, that, that to me, that makes you the outlier. That makes you somebody who did things differently. Most people, bruh, is popular opinion. You know what I'm saying? That's why I, so one of my other unpopular opinions is that I feel like our culture is destroying us. Because we all want to be the same person. We all want to wear the same shoes. We all want to do the same thing, and we don't, we've lost the individuality that pushes the culture forward. That was the whole point. And like that's why our music ain't the same. It's because everybody's sampling. Everybody's going back and getting their ideas from somebody else's music rather than creating their own sound or creating their own way. It's the same thing with fashion. Like a lot of the times, like, fashion niggas is fashion niggas. It used to be the fashion niggas that influenced hip-hop. You know what I'm saying? Like that shit used to trickle down. Now it's like, nah, we don't really do what they doing, or everybody's doing the exact same thing. Like everybody's going to the oversized shirts and the big clunky shoes now. Everybody's going to the chains on the pants with the flurred out shit now. Everybody's doing all the same shit. You see what I'm saying? So it's like, that's just one of my things.

SPEAKER_02: 7:40

We've all seen this before. And our parents have seen it before. You know what I'm saying? So everything just comes back around. If you're trying to change the game, just go back two couple decades and see what they was wearing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 7:52

Well, check this out. I'm here to tell you niggas. Them stack jeans is bell bottoms. Them bootcuts, they bell bottoms, bro. Like y'all really.

SPEAKER_02: 8:02

They got some bell bottoms for real now. Like dudes in Atlanta like them wearing. That's what I'm saying. That's cool.

SPEAKER_04: 8:09

That's cool on y'all. Flirred out. Super flurred out, bro. Like room bouncing around. Yeah, I ain't with all that. Mushroom paint.

SPEAKER_02: 8:16

Pepsi Helmut, parachute paint.

SPEAKER_04: 8:18

Right, bro. I mean, and I ain't hating, because again, it's fashion. But I also, like, if you talk to most people, they don't have a rhyme or reason why they're wearing it. Like, it's cause everybody else is wearing it. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01: 8:31

Yeah, I can agree with that. Like, a lot of people just wear what's trendy, you know? Like. The merch. Yeah. Hey. Yep. Some stuff is cool, bro. I ain't gonna lie. I I almost, but see, I'm different because I almost fell into that category. You know what I'm saying? I got one of them little things and I took that joint back.

SPEAKER_00: 8:56

It wasn't for me. My satchel. I couldn't even, I couldn't even wear it with a jacket, bro. Like I was trying to hide it and everything.

SPEAKER_02: 9:03

That was a European thing. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04: 9:05

They've been doing that over there. But but they they have traditionally, you go back hundreds of years, they always been a little different. You know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna touch too much on that, but like they always have been a little bit more eccentric when it comes to their sexuality and expressing those things. So it's like that's where our inspiration coming from. But that's what I'm saying. We don't even trip off of it. Like, as a culture, I mean, not like us individually.

SPEAKER_02: 9:29

We need to get back to always being the trendsetters, because that's what we always been. Yeah. Other cultures have always piggybacked on ours.

SPEAKER_04: 9:35

And it's still, it's still that way. I just feel like we're not as bold and setting those trends as we used to be. Like we used to be real established in it, but now it's kind of like, I feel like we experiment. I feel like we're in this weird period of time where it's like nothing is final. Like everybody's still kind of testing the waters, everybody dipping their toe and shit.

SPEAKER_01: 9:54

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I mean, bruh, that's why I agree with the culture's killing us, because they just doing anything. Like, any and everything, bruh. Like, it's crazy because they wanna they wanna live the entertaining, the entertainer life, right? But what they don't realize is these people are entertainers. You know what I'm saying? They get paid to entertain you and talk that shit. But you trying to live it and then rap it, which that's what kind of ruined hip hop for real, you know, this drill nonsense shit. You know what I'm saying? Like people telling people actually they ain't even telling people, they telling on themselves. You know what I'm saying? They rapping their real life, telling you on some stupid shit, but you know, it's it's ruining everything because everybody wanna do that. Everybody wanna go get the Draco, everybody wanna go get the AR and all of this, bro. Like, it ain't even necessary, bro. Like these kids are doing stupid stuff.

SPEAKER_04: 11:00

Which is crazy to me, bro. Cause if you I so if you step back and you look at our culture, most of the cats who we respected growing up wasn't even gangsters. Like, take, for example, Outcast. Well, Big Boy and Andre Three Stat, they weren't no gangsters, bro. We looked up to them just because they was authentic. Even Wayne, he talked that shit, bro, but we didn't listen to Wayne because of that. Like, that wasn't the it was the country shit. It was the coming from the gutter shit, but it wasn't necessarily the ride around town sliding on niggas doing this and shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it wasn't that, that wasn't the music we was necessarily looking for.

SPEAKER_02: 11:35

But what about gangster rap, the genre?

SPEAKER_04: 11:37

I think I think that's the problem. It was a genre. Now it's like our whole identity instead of it being a section of what the fuck we control.

SPEAKER_02: 11:46

Subgenres, subgenres. Yeah, yeah. But think about it.

SPEAKER_01: 11:49

Yeah. But think about this though. Even though they was talking about doing gangster stuff, they was talking about getting money. And it was calling.

SPEAKER_04: 12:00

If they wasn't coming out and saying it directly, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 12:02

Like. That's the thing. They was talking in third person. Or talking about somebody else. The difference is these niggas talking about their activities about themselves. Instead of saying, Instead of saying that. Right. Instead of saying, I know this person, I know this dude right here doing that.

SPEAKER_01: 12:17

Don't get me wrong. I listen to it. You know what I'm saying? It's entertaining. Yeah, yeah, of course. But like the right, the right drill stuff. Like, I don't be listening to just any type of music.

SPEAKER_02: 12:30

Except the right, the correct drill.

SPEAKER_01: 12:31

Yeah, the correct drill. You know what I'm saying? Cause some of these dudes, some of these dudes be just sounding like they crashing out just every time. Every single song a crash out song. I'm not gonna put nobody out there. I ain't gonna put nobody out there. I sure saw something. I was like, bro, this is terrible. And you you you sound like you just crashed out every single day.

SPEAKER_02: 12:53

So what's your um unpopular opinion then? You got something?

SPEAKER_01: 12:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 13:00

What was it? I could since we on culture, I can go ahead and flip mine off when we do that. Go ahead, go ahead. I think mine kind of fall in the same vein. Nah, so mine is that most of the children today are disrespectful because they were raised by disrespectful baby kid adults. Like they were disrespected by their parents. So, and then they also feel like their child has to earn respect. So that's why I don't like with this generation and this culture and these parents, is that respect your children too.

SPEAKER_04: 13:43

I feel like your opinion is probably more popular than you think, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think that that's the problem though. It's so, we so quiet. Cause it's a lot of, I agree, it's a lot of like bad parents and like people, immature parents. I say that it's a lot of immature parents trying to raise kids and they they instilling the wrong values in them. But I think it's a lot of us on the sideline, like shaking our heads.

SPEAKER_02: 14:05

Hey, like not saying nothing though. Yeah, yeah. You're not saying nothing, and then scared to say something because you now you're thinking about the repercussions that you're gonna receive from the other parent. Me as a barber, that's one thing, like, that's kind of why I had put my age reins of the kids that I cut. But, you know, for some reason I've been getting hit up more for younger c younger kids. So I've been taking them, but I kind of predicated off how they're gonna react after that very first appointment. If I could tell that you're gonna probably be an issue, and then if I could tell that you're probably gonna have a problem, me talking to your child, telling them to sit down how I want them to, I'm not taking you no more.

SPEAKER_06: 14:43

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02: 14:44

Because I should be able to, for this hour, 30 minutes, or whatever the case may be, talk to your child and instruct them and be stern with them and how I said, and then not be an issue. You know what I'm saying? But some parents, they gonna have a whole all type of smoke for you. You talk to their kid a certain way.

SPEAKER_04: 15:02

And they kids could be dead wrong, bro. It do not matter. So it's some parents who just, like you said, because they wasn't defended when they was kids. So now they carrying that chip on their shoulders. So now if you say something that set, they feel like you set them off, the kid could probably be fine.

SPEAKER_02: 15:18

But Or it could be the flip. They've received that so much from their parent. And now they're bleeding that on to their kid. You know what I'm saying? That's their trauma. Go ahead, Monte.

SPEAKER_01: 15:29

Nah, I was just I was just thinking because even though even though I would allow that, like as a parent, it's just certain it's just a certain like way that I'm like, alright, that's enough, type shit. You know what I'm saying? But it depends. Like I'm I'm good with the instruction, you know what I'm saying? But like I'm also their parent and be like, alright calm all that shit down, you know what I'm saying? Like it I've I've been in situations like that. Not saying you like that, but I've been in situations where they're like where you had to talk to somebody else about how they're gonna be able to get away. Yeah, like grabbing the head a certain way, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know Bro, my son, bruh You know how he act in the chair. Now somebody else was cutting him, and I'm like, hey, don't grab his head like that, you know what I'm saying? I know he's flinching and all that. Just you know what I'm saying. If you if you mess up, bro, you mess up. You know what I'm saying? Don't don't grab his head like that. I just had to check somebody before. You know what I'm saying? Not necessarily necessarily talking to him, you know what I'm saying? Because he didn't he didn't talk, he just used his hands, and I'm like, hey, you doing a little too much. How you know I squeezed that hard? It was it was the motion, bruh. And you know, broke the fast. Yeah, but but y'all also know my son, though. Yeah, he's a character, bruh. He might, you know what I'm saying? But I'm just gonna react to that. Yeah, you know, so I'm I but at the same time, I'm like, just watch yourself. You know what I'm saying? Like, just watch yourself. And I and I I ain't doing on no, hey, hey, hey, bro, you tripping. Nah, I was like, hey, you know what I'm saying? Like, hey, just don't yank his head, you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04: 17:11

You should draw the line. But I feel like that should be fine. To me personally, I feel like we've gotten so soft, bro, when it comes to correction and stuff like that. Just correction in general. When it comes to that, like growing up, I feel like you was able to be a lot more candid with people. You could just kind of say what was on your mind or what you was feeling or thinking, and people didn't get as sensitive. I think nowadays everybody is so worried about their image and shit that it's kind of like.

SPEAKER_02: 17:38

You know the reason why that that's probably another reason why is because that village that we talk about is is gone. Everybody said it takes. And what you think that's the contributing factor to people not having that village?

SPEAKER_04: 17:52

I mean, I feel like the matriarchs are gone. Like, or even patriarchs, right? I ain't gonna put it all on the women, but like I feel like there's always kind of that that key person. Like, whether it's a grandma, grandpa, uncle, auntie, whoever it is in your family, it's normally like a single person. You either go over their house for holidays or you talk like, you know what I'm saying? Like maybe they had all the kids, right? The grandma that had 10 kids, and so everybody kind of come from her. So it's I feel like we lost that in today's day and age. We don't have the the grandpas or the grandmas that's like actually keeping the community alive. Even even us as uncles and aunties now, because shout out to my 90s babies, we the uncles and aunties now. Like, we kind of control the flow of are we throwing barbecues? Are we trying to put together family reunions? Are we going over other people's house? Are we only just staying at our house? Like, we we gotta kind of branch back out. I feel like, again, I feel like that's part of us being soft. Everybody offended, everybody always into it with each other.

SPEAKER_02: 18:49

You know what I'm saying? They're not around, but Monte, like, why do you think they're not around? Why aren't the patriarchs and matriarchs around?

SPEAKER_01: 18:56

Because they got their own lives now, bruh. Like, the grandmas, like I said before, no shame, huh? But they grandmas, you know what I'm saying? They they they got their own lives, you know. But my mom, on the other hand, she's a grandma, but she actually she's there for her grandkids, you know what I'm saying? Some of these grandmas are like, hey, them your kids, you know what I'm saying? Keep them kids over there. I raised my kids. I ain't really saying that's just how some grandparents are. You know, if them kids are being well, you gotta think about that too. If the grandma being like that, then what the mama like? You feel me? Like it's so the kids, the kids nowadays just don't respect you know what I'm saying? And like I think I said this before on one of the older podcasts. Like, they don't respect because they they are their parents don't be respecting people. They see how their parents be acting and stuff like that, you know what I'm saying? So why would they respect stuff like that? They probably don't even respect their parents, you know? So they gonna go out there and not respect the OGs and not listen to the OGs and none of that. They think they know it all and they gonna go do something stupid. That's just how that's just how it is, but like this it's crazy, bro. Like, I don't even know if that is the issue though, and like the the the matriarchs, because even if it was a matriarch at this point, I don't think that the kids would listen to him. Period, bro.

SPEAKER_02: 20:34

Like I think at the end of the day, cause we can go a little bit deeper into it. I can just say this because spin it back to you, and but I think because the matriarchs have had to be the um forefront, forefront of the family and the leader of the family because the patriarchs were taken out and who they taken out by. Government.

SPEAKER_04: 20:58

I'm like, yeah, it depends on who you say. If you want to say that racist, like, yeah, like so white supremacy in general, yeah, whatever you want to know.

SPEAKER_02: 21:06

That had a damning effect on our culture.

SPEAKER_04: 21:09

Yeah. I agree with that. I mean, I agree with that wholeheartedly. I um to your point, it's kind of funny what did you say that, Mante, like, you don't think the kids, even if we had the like the matriarchs or the patriarchs in place, you don't think the kids would listen to them. But I think that's kind of like a catch 22, because if they were in place, I don't think we would have had as much movement like when it comes to like the kids being separated from the home or like away from the rules and shit. Cause when I see families that's like deep, like grandma and grandpa had 10 to 12 kids, they kids had 10 to 12 kids, everybody got hella siblings and they all kind of linked together, them kids will be bad outside of them cribs. Yeah. But if grandmas like pop up, it's a problem. You know what I'm saying? So like I feel like it's still in place in some areas. It's just that our culture has gotten away from it. Like, even movies, bro. Like, if you if you peep them now, like you said, it's grandmas everywhere. Like, ain't nobody a regular grandma. Everybody, grandma iced out, tight dressed, wanna young thundercat. Like everybody grandma is like that now in the media. Ain't nobody the old school grandma with a gown on, with that little fat jiggly, and you know what I'm saying, burning something up in the kitchen. Like, that's what that's what I grew up on. Like, when I think about my granny, bro, that my granny, bro. Like, she legit is a granny, bro.

SPEAKER_02: 22:27

We talking about TV days. What's a good TV mom?

SPEAKER_04: 22:30

A good, I mean, forever for me, it's gonna be Felicia Rashad as, you know, Mrs. Cosby. Like, what you mean? Like, as far as TV moms. That's the standard. That's that's who is better than her? Like, you could argue ain't viv technically, but nah.

SPEAKER_02: 22:45

Monte Stewin, he's sticking, he's thinking of something, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 22:48

Who you who you thinking of? As a mom? As a as like a TV mom?

SPEAKER_01: 22:52

Yeah, I keep Xing everybody at the you said Felicia Rashad, like that. Bro, it's like every time I go to a city. Claire Huxtable, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 23:00

Claire Huxtable, bro, that's ultimate TV mom. Because she was, she'd have fun with you. She'll get with your motherfucking ass. And she was smart as hell. She was a lawyer. So it's just like.

SPEAKER_01: 23:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 23:10

You know what I mean? She was kind of covering all bases. But that's just my argument as far as like.

SPEAKER_02: 23:15

I don't know if somebody would say Medea.

SPEAKER_04: 23:17

What? I ain't gonna lie, though. Medea saved a lot of kids from uh no matter. Yeah, but I guess it's built. I I guess that is based off of yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody else. But I mean, that's that's to each his own, you know what I mean, as far as like what you believe in. Because some people, some people got gay grandmas, bro. And they gay grandma, they gotta, that's their foundation. That's all they've known. Some people got the grandma that was there for their grandpa who slept around the city, and they got cousins literally in all points of the country.

SPEAKER_01: 23:49

Yeah, bro. It's like shit has changed for real. Like, but I don't know, bro. Like, and it's a ton of grandpas out there that wasn't there because of cheating. Just wasn't there. Right. They said they was working, but they had another family on the side of the. No, they were working. They were providing for that household, but they just wasn't there. They was working, but they was also doing their thing. You know what I'm saying? That's why they were never there.

SPEAKER_04: 24:19

But that I feel like the rules changed, because I'll say this, bro. Society dictates usually what a man does. Like back in the day, that's what they told you a man did. A man went and worked. If you wasn't working, if you wouldn't bring home a paycheck, you wasn't a man. Same thing when it comes to like labor, right? Same thing when it comes to the woman with providing food and stuff like that. Like you said, times have changed. The culture has changed. Now you got where it used to be taboo for a man to be in the kitchen cooking, you got uh male chefs everywhere now. You know what I'm saying? Like now it's a lot more accepted because we've kind of broken down some of those barriers. But on that same token, we got women who are not necessarily being the traditional housewife. Now they want to be out, you know, making money, traveling, doing their thing, making like, you know, entrepreneur, creating businesses, doing their thing. So now it's like the foundation has shifted. Like what does the traditional home look like today? You know what I mean? And I think I think we still figuring that out. I don't know if that's really there's really an answer to that.

SPEAKER_02: 25:20

You know what I'm saying? But this is this is gonna be yeah, predicated off your own. Which I think is cool for everybody.

SPEAKER_04: 25:27

But and I think to circle it back around, that's why I said the unpopular opinion, our culture is killing us. Because we don't have definitions for nothing no more. Like everybody is trying to be one thing, even with the whole traditional thing. Like they look at being a traditional housewife as negative now, and everybody wanna be, oh, you a free woman. You can't let people tell you what to do, da da da. And I feel like there should be a healthy balance. You gotta, you got your your women who's single, they want to be, you know, the favorite auntie, the rich auntie. You got the women who wanna settle down early and have, you know, eight to ten kids and not work, you know what I mean? Like that's do what you want to do. I don't feel like it should be like a culture dictating, like, this is what everybody should be doing, or this is what everybody should be looking like. You know what I mean? But I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_01: 26:12

Cause I can't lie. When I like I've been watching some of these, like Southwest baddies and the Bratt's house and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_06: 26:25

People be like, bitch, you 53?

SPEAKER_00: 26:27

That what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01: 26:28

No, it ain't even that, bruh. They look the same, bro. What you mean? Like most of them just look the same. They, you know, like the outfits that they wear, the hair that they can. Oh, you talking about everybody a cardestrian clone, right? Yeah, copy and paste. Yes, bro. Like, it's like, it's like, dang. Like some of them do have they, you know, like individual, some individuality, you know what I'm saying? Some of them do. It's but for the most part, it's like, most of y'all looking the same. Most of y'all wearing the same shoes, the same dresses, you know what I'm saying, the same hairstyles. It's like, hey, bro, like, it's getting old. And to me, the question comes up is like, what are y'all looking for? Like, what are y'all looking for? What are y'all, what's the purpose? You know what I'm saying? And then that's the same with the males. Like you you want to look like somebody else, but what's the purpose, bro? Like, what are you trying, what are you going after? What are you if you if you getting Balenciaga shoes and and Louis V belts and all of that to go to the club, what you doing, bro? What you for who? You know?

SPEAKER_04: 27:34

Yeah, like for what? Like what's what's your purpose? Legitimately, like, what do you have you thought this out? Are you trying to do that? Have you thought out the plan, bro?

SPEAKER_01: 27:40

You trying to get the baddest chick in the club or are you trying to look the best in the club?

SPEAKER_04: 27:43

What you know? Hey, so I seen this this Instagram video and the girl was talking about that. She was like, girls in cars are the same. She was like, you know how you go car shopping, right? Yeah. And you see this nice car and you like, oh, dang, that mug nice. And then you you research how much it costs to maintain that car, and you'd be like, oh yeah, I can't afford$90 oil changes and stuff like that, right? You use you back up off of it. She was like, females are the same way. Don't go get the baddest chick in the room, and then you realize she asking you for all this stuff, saying, I want this kind of purse, these shoes, that's what costs. Exactly. You got to understand that was the that's the maintenance costs for that. Like, you know what I'm saying? If that ain't what you want, she's she was like, go get a Honda. Ah, that should have you weak. But it made hella sense, though. And I feel like if if if more people simplified it, we would be all right. I feel like we live our life so complex, bro, because we don't think anything through. Everything is surface level. If we just sat and broke it down, bro, like instead of trying to take it all at one time, just break it down into bite-sized pieces. You would understand a lot quicker how you make decisions based on other people more than you make them based on what you want or what you think is best for your life. You know what I mean? But alright, let's pivot. Because I feel like we talk about this enough, we're gonna get somebody in trouble. Cat's gonna start talking about this in the car, like, yeah, so what you think about? Alright, but I got something that's still a little a little spicy. So, I know we talked about this a little bit ahead of time, but like, did y'all catch Cameron and the Adrian Bronus situation? Yes, indeed. Man, alright, so I'm gonna play it because I want y'all to hear it. And then we'll we'll talk about it again.

SPEAKER_03: 29:30

You look so good in person. Thank you. I appreciate that. Hey. What what you wasted at? I love you. But a guy. I'm sorry. I'm my bad, y'all. My bad. Arabia, is that a real background? Hey, Stack, can you stop smiling? Can you stop smiling? Hey, Arabia is.

SPEAKER_05: 29:53

Now your bro or some bro. Oh, yeah. Oh, oh. Oh shit. I told you that. My bad, my bad. It's all like. Okay, we guess we can move on to football, then. Oh my God. Yes, that lets you do the football. I guess that answered the question about Floyd. When I see, when I see you taking off some time.

SPEAKER_03: 30:17

This nigga here, bro. I did not know you looked that good in person.

SPEAKER_05: 30:21

My bad, bro. You amazing. All right, hey, we're gonna have to actually go, my nigga. I mean, I have to ask you to go, man. I'm gonna pay you for your time. For being here. I appreciate you. And I love you, my nigga.

SPEAKER_03: 30:36

I'm not doing it again.

SPEAKER_05: 30:38

Yeah, no, no, no. I can't. Actually, the first time, I don't have no problems with you. I'm gonna pay you for your time. But you can't violate, bro. I told you that. I'm not, though. I'm not. I told you niggas' boyfriends are here. You know more my brother's nigga.

SPEAKER_03: 30:52

My bad, bro.

SPEAKER_05: 30:52

My bad. No, no. But I appreciate your time. It's me.

SPEAKER_03: 30:56

It's me.

SPEAKER_05: 30:57

Well, if you want to wait for us outside, you could, but I'm not gonna say and not value your time either. If you wanna wait for us, you could, bro. I appreciate it, bro. You gotta step out.

SPEAKER_04: 31:18

Alright, and so as you hear, Cameron asks Adrian to step out after he consistently violates by flirting with the co-host on their podcast, right? And you can see if you if you peep gang, they tried to ring it in a couple of times. And if I was Cameron, I probably would have reacted a little bit stronger because you also interrupted me. Like I'm I'm trying to get on to the next subject. I'm talking. I'm literally talking about something, and you man, she's so pretty, man.

SPEAKER_01: 31:49

Like, bro, like you tripping. I don't know, well, I don't know Cameron personally, but if you've if you followed Cameron, like the his his background, you know what I'm saying? He was on that at that point. You know what I'm saying? And he was, he really was like, you gotta go, bruh, like for some shit happen. You know what I'm saying? So, first of all, he said, I told you. I told you already. So that for me.

SPEAKER_02: 32:18

Sound like they had a prior conversation prior.

SPEAKER_01: 32:19

A prior conversation, bruh. And really you deserve to get hurt, but we gonna have to excuse you, you know what I'm saying? And like, I ain't got no problems with you, but me personally, I feel like I ain't got no problems with you and all that. That's for the camera. Cam probably ain't gonna mess with him no more. You know what I'm saying? He probably, that's probably his last interview with them. He probably finna lose his number, all that.

SPEAKER_02: 32:42

So I think, first, first and foremost, I think Cam handled that the right way. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure. And I think in every way, you know, because some people look at their like, why he pay him? I think the end of the day, yeah, he still paid him, like you said, paying for his time because he came out there and stuff like that. He was there. I think that the thing is about A B, if you've been following A B, he's been coming down falling from grace, you know what I'm saying? For the last few years. And he's been having substance abuse issues. I feel like dude was probably inebriated at that time, too.

SPEAKER_04: 33:14

Yeah, for sure. It sounded like he was definitely under the influence of something.

SPEAKER_02: 33:18

Alright, so look, I know we ain't gonna some people don't want to hear this, but I seen this going around social media in regards to the clip. Yeah. How you think the female handled it?

SPEAKER_04: 33:29

I saw I saw that too, right? I saw it was kind of split on some people saying like she was too giggly, and then other people were saying like y'all misunderstand. That was her trying to like nervous laugh to like kind of keep it going. You know what I'm saying? And to be honest, so the other clip I had played beforehand, I thought it was the right clip. It looks like she was uncomfortable. Like when they tried to like kind of get things back going, she did actually look uncomfortable with everything that was going on. I think sometimes you gotta understand this as well. Women love compliments, so it's okay to smile if somebody says something nice. Yeah. However, I did I think that was a great professional move because had she been more disgusted or reacted a certain way, the boyfriend that was there probably would have also tripped out.

SPEAKER_02: 34:14

Exactly. That's why I also commended Cameron on that because if I was a boyfriend, yeah, I'd have been hated and some guys would have did the wrong thing and reacting on this guy's show.

SPEAKER_06: 34:24

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 34:24

And Cameron nipped it in the butt because he like he told him twice, like, like I told you her dude here, you know, she got a situation. Like, so him stepping in and handling it how he did was kudos to him too, because like I said, he was trying to also look out for her situation. Yeah. Some guys just even though they show homie and stuff like that, they come on a podcast that I've seen, they'll let the other dude who coming under their dude get their issue off. Yeah, flirting with that female. You know what I'm saying? Almost dig it on type stuff. Right, because they're not respecting her relationship, they not respecting the guy that she with. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? So I think that's that's fluky. Some real motion.

SPEAKER_01: 35:03

He ain't like, he don't need that. You know what I'm saying? And is is at that point, it's it's it's it's based off being real. So if you if that's what you gonna do on here, go ahead and pack it up, bro. Like, that ain't what we doing here.

SPEAKER_04: 35:17

That's what I think that's what I respect about it too, because not only did he stand up, shout out to him protecting the woman in that situation, the black woman situation, but he stood on some man shit with somebody he knew. Yeah. Cause most niggas, if you're familiar with a motherfucker that's your friend or whatever, you kind of let him get away with murder in a lot of situations. But he stood on that shit. And he wasn't giggly. He wasn't like trying to laugh and make it a uh like a sugarcoating situation. He was like, nah, nah, I I I gotta ask you to step out. You could wait for me. We could, we could chop it up after this. But I'm I'm gonna have to ask you to step out. And then walked up on him and like, hey, no, I I need you to get up and get out.

SPEAKER_01: 35:55

Most people think that standing on business is like this this term of to joke about. Like, it really ain't, bro. Like, that's when you standing on business, you a stand-up guy, bro. Like, you that's that's just what it is. Most people, like you said, won't say nothing when when they when they partners around and stuff like that. But that's that says a lot about you as a person. You know what I'm saying? Like, you you can't just let everybody get away with things, but like for one, that's walking over you because you ain't standing up for the person that you supposed to be standing up for. So, yeah, you're right. Shout out to him for standing up and kicking that nigga out because he like he violated, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 36:36

Like, you know On multiple levels, too, because it wasn't just with the co-host, bro. This business. We supposed to be here. I'm supposed to be interviewing you, you supposed to be a part of my podcast. Like, I get paid for this, you know what I'm saying? I'm I'm paying for this space and this time to record this stuff. Like, and you you playing games with me. Like, that's another thing. Like, this this is a professional platform, bro, and you out here doing everything but contributing to the actual podcast. Right.

SPEAKER_01: 36:58

He wasting all the time talking about, oh, you're beautiful, man. Hey, I ain't gonna lie, he I'd have kicked him out too, bro.

SPEAKER_02: 37:06

That's because also he was, you know, ducking and dodging those questions about Fluid. Yeah. So that's why it's a lot of those instances when he was doing that, he was trying to duck those questions about Fluid.

SPEAKER_01: 37:16

He could have said next.

SPEAKER_04: 37:18

Right. I mean, and even like you just said, he could have, he could have done the same and stood on business. Like, hey, look, I ain't talking about him. Y'all can ask me anything else. And then moved on. Because if you ask if I continue to ask you, just don't say nothing. Just sit there.

SPEAKER_01: 37:30

I mean, but he Just someone just look at you like you're crazy. Honest, Adrian Brona was never a professional type of person. I mean, even in the media.

SPEAKER_04: 37:40

Yeah, even in the ring, bro. He was antics. None of that.

SPEAKER_01: 37:43

Honestly, like.

SPEAKER_04: 37:45

He was selling tickets. It's on brand type shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 37:47

Yeah, you know, like him being just stupid, just doing stupid stuff.

SPEAKER_04: 37:52

Which, alright, but and that's the thing. So I just I really just wanted to do a post check on that because I was like, Cass had to see this. But some because some people feel like Cameron did too much. They was like, oh, you could have just kept going with the episode, da da da. Why? Blah, blah, blah. Because some people feel like it wasn't that deep. They was like, he wasn't saying nothing too bad. He was just, you know what I'm saying, saying she was.

SPEAKER_01: 38:12

And them people that don't stand on business.

SPEAKER_02: 38:15

Now though, I did see that it was a clip that came out of him discussing it on that same episode. You know what I'm saying? Over the airwaves alive.

SPEAKER_06: 38:24

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02: 38:25

I wouldn't have did that. I handled how that was how I feel like it should have been handled, and I would have dated it. I wouldn't have probably discussed it. Wouldn't have brought it back up.

SPEAKER_01: 38:33

Alright, now we're gonna go back into the people who do it for the content. I mean hey, that was his content. You know what I'm saying? Like his show was professional, but he does stuff for content, just like he did with Omar.

SPEAKER_02: 38:47

I ain't even see it. I still seen that, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 38:49

Them niggas, bro. I gotta. I heard some clips, and that shit just had me weak.

SPEAKER_01: 38:53

Hey, hey, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00: 38:55

Like, that's why he paid him. He paid for less. He paid for less. Like, he paid more for less, bro. Like, he threw this man out of the city. Cameron funny, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 39:06

Fake. If you keep off of it, bro, since we know Cameron, that nigga been a jokester, bro. He's always been clowning on cats. Him and Mace, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like that's been a consistent, like, personality trait in him. And speaking of comedians, bro, so did y'all peep Steve Harvey on uh the Pivot Podcast? Did y'all catch any clips of that? Yeah, I caught it. You can call some clips.

SPEAKER_01: 39:27

Alright, so but I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_04: 39:29

Because one of the big things that came out, right, is Steve Harvey gave his comedy Mount Rushmore.

SPEAKER_06: 39:36

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04: 39:36

Right. And for those who don't know, when you give your Mount Rushmore on a particular topic, you give the top four, right? So the top four people, whether it's singers, dancers, musicians, whatever your subject matter is, right, that's what you give. Steve Harvey gave a little extra, right? So he let it be known that one, Richard Pryor got his own statue, right? He doesn't belong on around Mount Rushmore with other people. He deserves his own, his own peace. He said the same thing about Eddie Murphy, right? Which I agree with those, right? I wouldn't put them necessarily in a Mount Rushmore because they they overshadow other comedians by so much.

SPEAKER_01: 40:16

Yes, which places them on the Mount Rushmore. That's what the Mount Rushmore is for.

SPEAKER_04: 40:21

I I get you. But I like when you say, when you say Mount Rushmore, right, I feel like those are people who are of equal value to a degree. Like even for the actual Mount Rushmore, these are people who are considered the forefathers of America, right? So they they put these these four faces up here. But they're considered to have contributed essentially the same type of value. So when I think of the comedy Mount Rushmore, initially I wouldn't have thought to give nobody their own fucking statue. I feel like it's a little dramatic. But at the same time, I kind of agree with it. Because when I think about putting four people next to each other, if you name Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy, where are you going from there?

SPEAKER_01: 41:02

Like who else you putting in that category? I'm going next down the line who I think is, who I think should be on my Mount Rushmore. That's how, that's how it should be. I'm not thinking about giving another person a whole other mountain. They go on the Mount Rushmore. Because you got to think about what you said is the forefathers. If you put the forefathers up there, that means a lot of niggas ain't going on this Mount Rushmore that you may look that you may fuck with.

SPEAKER_04: 41:28

Like Obama will never be on the motherfucking Mount Rushmore.

SPEAKER_01: 41:31

Just no, that's not true. He would definitely be up there. I'm saying on the real Mount Rushmore.

SPEAKER_00: 41:38

Yeah, like you say, no, they definitely need to take one of them motherfuckers down and put Obama on everyone.

SPEAKER_04: 41:44

I mean, at this point, they didn't take all them motherfuckers down, but at this point, I feel like all the statues of motherfuckers be racist motherfuckers. You really go pay attention. It's like, damn. Why? Huh?

SPEAKER_02: 41:54

Why he on there? Who? Obama.

SPEAKER_04: 41:57

Well, as far as if I if I created a Mount Rushmore of presidents for myself, like we're doing for comedians, he would definitely be on there just for his influence and representation alone.

SPEAKER_01: 42:07

And and for me, he was the first black, black president. First black president.

SPEAKER_04: 42:11

So that's that's synonymous. That's an accommodation. And then, bruh, he's one of the only presidents to have actually gone and practiced law. Like the nigga has a legitimate law degree. Not to mention he has been the most competent president in being able to communicate and show up. He makes he makes public appearances, he communicates and gives statements on current events and advises people in a political space. I feel like he does what he's supposed to do as like a president or former president.

SPEAKER_01: 42:39

Like a quote-unquote president. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04: 42:42

Exactly. He actually performs as a political entity rather than a celebrity.

SPEAKER_02: 42:48

Who? Me? I said that sounds like a great public speaker.

SPEAKER_04: 42:51

But that's what a president is. I mean, essentially, yeah. I mean, like, they're the most powerful person in America, but they like they don't do nothing but Mount Rush for the Mount Rushmore right now. Mm-hmm. They actually did stuff, you feel like? You feel like they actually changed the landscape of America, type of thing. I get that. That's fair. Because if you I also think that depends on how deep you go into history, because like for things like Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves, technically that didn't happen. So like there's a but again, I ain't finna go. That's a tangent, that's a whole episode in this up. But I think that's also the problem when we talk about stuff like this, the Mount Rushmores, the shit we have in America, you know, most of what we know is a lie. Like most of what we experience is an illusion, my nigga.

SPEAKER_01: 43:34

As I pointed out in the last episode of My History Learnings, yeah. But go ahead.

SPEAKER_02: 43:42

So what's your Mount Rushmore for comedians? Do we let me re- let me rephrase it? Are we going to say what's your or what's the?

SPEAKER_04: 43:52

No. Yeah, what's the I think we should take our individual, and we can say one at the end if we feel like we want to argue that, but I think we should give our individuals first.

SPEAKER_01: 44:00

Monte, go ahead, bro. Alright, so for me, because I didn't really see Richard Pryor, like all of that back in the day, I like I didn't I didn't watch that. Like I didn't, it's like a Bruce Lee movie. I didn't watch Bruce Lee because it was black and white, and I didn't like it. So Eddie Murphy was like the first comedian that I ever saw. And like I'm putting him on that Mount Rushmore. He does not get his own mountain, bro. Like he he's one of the forefathers, because if it wasn't for him, it wouldn't be a Martin to do like dress up like B Big Mama, you know what I'm saying? Right, right, right, right. Stuff like that, or that was Big Mama. Martin was Big Mama, but but I forgot uh the uh the clumps, you know what I'm saying, stuff like that. But not to do little you know, like all that you know he was a top actor, you know what I'm saying? For me, Will Smith, because he he's in that he's in that category, you know. And then it was four of though, right?

SPEAKER_02: 45:04

Alright boy For me is Bernie Mac Right Okay and then who would be happy Haven Murphy, Bernie Mac, Will Smith. Yupas.

SPEAKER_04: 45:27

Oh, hold on, wait, hold on, wait, wait, wait. Of comedians? Yes, that's what let him go. Let him go. So Will Smith wasn't a comedian. You do your thing, brother. I'm asking. I don't know what he classifies himself as. I think he's uh I think he considers himself all those things.

SPEAKER_01: 45:43

So he never got on stage?

SPEAKER_04: 45:44

I don't know. I don't know if I've ever seen him do a stand-up or let him go. But yeah, you're right. My bad.

SPEAKER_01: 45:50

I was like, wait, huh? If he's not a comedian, then he can't go on Mount Red. They're gonna be chiseling his ass off.

SPEAKER_04: 45:58

I feel like he's a comedic actor. I don't know if he's considered like a comedian.

SPEAKER_01: 46:02

Oh, well, then I would replace him with Martin. Okay. So go to your list again, real quick. You say you got Eddie Murphy. It would be Eddie Murphy, then it would be Bernie Mack, then Martin, uh-huh, then damn, I just had him in my head too. Jamie Foxx. Yep.

SPEAKER_04: 46:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_02: 46:24

I like that. The most, once again, the most talented person in Hollywood, bro. Yeah, Jamie Foxx. Dude be cooking. Alright, for me though, I'm gonna go mine, me personally. Dave Chappelle, Bernie Mack, Cat Williams. And I'm gonna throw out this name because also I wanna give the women some little Wanda Sykes. I like that. I like that. But Daddy Jamie Foxx was was a honorable mission for me to think, you know what I'm saying, think about for sure.

SPEAKER_04: 46:56

That's so, that's so tough, because now y'all niggas got me thinking about like in living color and all the motherfucking comedians. Yeah, I because for me personally, I'm finna. This mine, yeah, I'm finna say mine's mine's a little different. So I definitely think I got the first three that you know it's a mix. So Eddie Murphy for show, Bernie Mack for show, Dave Chappelle for show. And bro, my last one is like, that's hard, fam. But I'm kinda just cause the shit that I grew up on, bruh, and I feel like this nigga don't get his recognition in a lot of these conversations, my number four is Jim Carrey, bro. I was gonna say that, but bruh, the mask almost ace ventucky. Lar, liar, like, fam, bruh. That nigga there is different.

SPEAKER_01: 47:52

Honestly, honestly, what I was when I first thought about it, Jim Carrey would be number one for me.

SPEAKER_04: 47:59

Bro, Jim Carrey is classic comedy, bro.

SPEAKER_01: 48:02

Like, no lie. But the the one reason I didn't put Dave up there is because he came after all of them. And when you think about the Mount Rushmore, I wouldn't put Dave up there because he just, he wasn't, them was OGs, you know what I mean? You feel like they was more 90s comics. I'm glad you said it.

SPEAKER_02: 48:22

I'm glad you said that because I came up with another list too. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01: 48:25

But I definitely wanted to see, I don't, I don't want to replace nobody, but Tommy Davison was up there, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 48:31

Bro, I used to bruh, people sleep on his like actual stand-up, bro. Like back in the day.

SPEAKER_00: 48:36

Bro, I just went to one of his stand-ups, bro. Like, dude still got it and had me crying, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 48:42

See, he had me crying. And there's so many good comedians out there. Carlos Miller, bro, hold on. I mean, the whole 85 South is funny, so.

SPEAKER_00: 48:52

He was he was by himself. He was on comic view. He went out with like to see this dude, bro. He's like, You wouldn't go see Carlos Miller by that? Yes, bro. Like he dude say, hey, man. He say, hey, I know all y'all done did this. Y'all done, y'all done had sex with y'all women and y'all was sleeping booted the booter.

SPEAKER_03: 49:12

Buddha the booter is hilarious.

SPEAKER_00: 49:17

Have me crying. Hey, because I was with my wife and I'm just crying, bro. I was like, yes, nigga, it's happening. Everybody the booty boot.

SPEAKER_04: 49:28

Lil' Boot of the Buddha.

SPEAKER_00: 49:29

Hey, hey, but nah, they're all good choices, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 49:33

So for real. But so for me, I'ma go back to Unique's original definition of the Mount Rushmore. So people who changed the landscape of it. So when I think Eddie Murphy, between Delirious and Raw, they changed the landscape of comedy. When I talk about Bernie Mack and his authentic, his raw energy, he changed the landscape of comedy. Even with the TV shows, bro, he was the first comedian to have like a national like comedy, yeah, like uh syndicated TV show. And it's like, that's crazy to me. Dave Chappelle, for me, the Chappelle show alone, not even talking about stuff like Half Baked or his uh his because people forget he was in another professor. He was the comedian that was roasting Buddy Love when he was, you know what I'm saying? Like people forget about that. Like, but Dave Chappelle been, he's been he been doing this for a minute. For a while, bro. And he he got some cold stand-ups, but the Chappelle show alone, for me, I feel like he changed the landscape of sketch comedy with stuff like that. And then Jim Carrey, bro, Jim Carrey, again, going back to Ace Ventura, Pet Detective, Lar Lar, The Mask, bro, not to mention In Living Color. It he's had so many impactful. And then he dude disappeared for 80 years and then popped back up as Sonic and still cold. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like still cold. So it's just, I feel like I gotta get him pro. Even though I love Cat Williams, even though I rock with Kevin Hart, even though there's a million niggas I used to watch on Comic View, I, them the people I got.

SPEAKER_02: 51:04

I'm glad you brought that name, because I wanted to spin it back. The son of Monte said he was talking about like an OG. Yeah. I had created like an OG list and a new gen list. And I and I said new gen, like who, who from the new generation of comics, or comedians, y'all think should be on like a rush or a Mount Rushmore? I think number one, let me ask this question real quick, because you said his name. Would you put Kevin Hart in that? No. He would be considered like Argen?

SPEAKER_04: 51:34

I see that's the I think that's the problem. It depends on when you consider it. Exactly. Kevin Hart got popular in 2009, 2010. But he was but he was doing comedy long before that. Like he was, he was, Soul Plain came out hellas before that, bro. Yeah. Like he was in scary movies hellas before that. He was in 40 year old Virgin hella before that and was funny. Like, and was hilarious, bro. So it's like, I feel like it depends on when we I feel like I would put him in the same boat as I would uh Dave Shapir. Him and Dave Shapir, as far as timing, as far as like outgoing him doing comedy, but it's like that I would consider them like, but same thing with Cat Williams. Cat Williams has been doing comedy so long, but he's technically a 2000s comic. He's not like a 90s death jam comic. But and see, then shout out to St. Louis, because that's that's that's whole that's hometown hero, you know what I'm saying? But but that's what I'm talking about. It's so many solid comedians that don't get they just do, bruh. Like, and the people, like the earthquakes, like the like Lavelle Crumf. Like the Lavel. I mean, and Lavelle Croft, another hometown hero, bro. Like, dude is hilarious. But I feel like, I don't know. I feel if we did a new school list, I would go truly new school. I'm talking about the DC Young Flies, the Drewski's, the uh Desi Banks, the uh what's the Davis? What's the Mr. Commodore, the the like, yeah, it's Haha Davis. It's all of these cats, like them are new school to me. Anybody that came up during the Instagram era would be like new school.

SPEAKER_00: 53:04

And what's that that dude now? What's his name? Jack Fly, some shit like that. Uh Jack Funny?

SPEAKER_04: 53:08

Bruh, hilarious, bro. That dude is funny.

SPEAKER_00: 53:12

Dude is fucking hilarious, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 53:14

It's my light skinned dude, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 53:16

Like, dude, be and uh uh what's the other dude's name that I'll be watching? Uh Skin Bone.

SPEAKER_04: 53:22

Yeah, that nigga is her. Bruh, so niggas forget. Remember that song he came out, he was like, I'ma kill you. Yeah. Y'all know that was sexy red song that he was doing. Yeah. That was her originally. People sleep, they forget he was making fun of her, and that's kind of what got her like her sting going. Yeah, that's crazy. Hey. But so nobody from the Vine era?

SPEAKER_01: 53:48

I mean DC Young Fowers from the Vine.

SPEAKER_04: 53:50

Yeah, DC Young Flowers from the Vine era. Shout out to my nigga Tim Chantarongsu, aka Timothy De La Ghetto. That nigga, bruh, I've been, I was watching that nigga back in 2009 on YouTube and shit. He was one of the OGs. Him and like King Batch and him, they they kind of started that YouTube comedy era back in the line.

SPEAKER_01: 54:08

I probably have a problem typing in a dude's name.

SPEAKER_04: 54:10

Timothy De La Ghetto? Yeah, bro. I or Tim Chantarongsu. Yeah, that nigga. I mean, that nigga, he like Filipinos or Why you guys type in Tim? What you mean for what?

SPEAKER_00: 54:21

To find this nigga.

SPEAKER_04: 54:22

Bro, you know the nigga, though, Asian nigga that he be on, he done been on wildin' out his shit. If I show you the nigga's face, bro, you're gonna be like, oh, I'm gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_01: 54:29

I mean, it's only a couple Asian dudes that was on that motherfucker.

SPEAKER_04: 54:32

That's what I'm saying. But I think everybody knows his face, right? But like, as far as the I say who started that shit, because we gotta remember, bro, social media, like we grew up with the internet. Niggas wasn't viral all the time. You had to be, you had to know what was cracking. Like on YouTube, it was niggas had like pockets where they had fans and shit. Everybody wasn't listening to the same shit, except like Soulja Boy. Everybody had a like Soldier Boy song in their playlist, nigga.

SPEAKER_01: 54:59

Man.

SPEAKER_04: 54:59

Everybody had the ring tone. Shoot. Let me get them shoot. That nigga, hey, while we sleep, nigga, we was out there doing them dances, the big ass tall T's and shit, nigga. You was definitely out there in the tall T. You wanna do it?

SPEAKER_01: 55:12

I was in the tall T, but this nigga laying with a rock and go back to the bottom. That's what I'm saying, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 55:17

You ain't you ain't hit no snap, nigga. You ain't hit nothing back then, nigga.

SPEAKER_01: 55:21

Uh you ain't do nothing. It was the uh the uh young blood stump. That's what I yeah, I would do that.

SPEAKER_04: 55:28

But even that, the eight, the eight-town stomp and shit. But that's what I'm saying. We was all doing that shit. It was anything that I feel like when we was coming up, bro. We had a dance per song. Like if your song came out and was hot, it had a dance, bruh.

SPEAKER_00: 55:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 55:42

Even if it was just a clap. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, nigga, you had something. Like, hey, hold on now.

SPEAKER_01: 55:48

You would never see me clapping.

SPEAKER_04: 55:51

Hey, what was that one song, bruh? Damn, that shit gonna fuck with me. It's gonna fuck with me, bro.

SPEAKER_00: 55:55

It don't matter what it was. I wasn't clapping in the club.

SPEAKER_04: 55:58

Nah, nigga, it was some shit. It was a gangster ass song, too. I forgot, but them niggas was uh, nah, it was a dipset that hey my hey my what's nope, let's ride. But nah, they had a dance, nigga. Them niggas was like sidestepping and like front stepping and shit. Them niggas in big ass throwback jerseys and wristbands and headbands, nigga.

SPEAKER_01: 56:18

You see, I don't even I don't even participate in none of the the line dances, none of that. I don't do that.

SPEAKER_04: 56:24

Oh boy, right here.

SPEAKER_01: 56:25

I don't either, but I got I got two steps, brother. I two step all day. I I would do that all day, bruh. I was trying to two-step at your body. Shout out real.

SPEAKER_02: 56:34

I wasn't doing check my footwork. And was doing it.

SPEAKER_01: 56:39

I was trying to two-step at your wedding, but I was too, I was lit. I couldn't even I couldn't even get right, man.

SPEAKER_02: 56:44

I got it on camera. We was doing we were doing that pancake. Stirring that pot.

SPEAKER_04: 56:51

Bruh, but I feel like, I feel like that that shit, that's when the culture was popping. Because if you trip off of it, bruh, we had eras. The niggas from New York was doing New York shit. Niggas from Atlanta was doing Atlanta shit. Like everybody was doing something different, and you would catch the vibe if you rocked with it. Like nowadays, everybody just kind of melting in the same pot together and shit, but Alright, so the last thing I want to talk to you niggas about. Wait, no, no, no. We ain't finished. That's the problem. We be getting away from shit. We gotta finish this Mount Rushmore conversation.

unknown: 57:24

Right?

SPEAKER_04: 57:24

What you mean? You said, hold on, he said, remember at the end, we said we was gonna come up with the. We talked about our individuals. If we had to put one up for the culture, if we had to say, aye, this has gotta cover everybody. Who has to go on there? Not your personal opinion, but if you got this, let's say like 90% of the the culture would have to agree with you, who you throwing on that Mount Rushmore?

SPEAKER_02: 57:48

AD Murphy.

SPEAKER_04: 57:48

Yeah. AD Murphy number one, okay. That's easy.

SPEAKER_02: 57:51

Well, I mean, it's the difficulty is, is like, like Monte said, I've watched Richard Prayer, but I wasn't, you know what I'm saying, that enthused by it.

SPEAKER_06: 58:02

Yeah. Yeah. But it's a different type of thing.

SPEAKER_02: 58:04

But I understand, you know what I'm saying, his contribution. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 58:09

Because I feel like I feel like our parents watched him, and that's the reason why we were watching certain things, like comedy-wise. That's how we got on Eddie Murphy, you know what I mean? Because they saw that it was a stand-up and they were like, oh, this Eddie, this, this, this Richard Pryor is so dope. Can't wait till the next one. Oh man, it's this Eddie Murphy character coming up, and I heard this, you know what I'm saying? So that's how they got on it. So I f I kind of feel like he should be up there, but that'll be on somebody else's mind.

SPEAKER_04: 58:41

I feel like I feel like it's that's it's hard to do, kind of, because it's like a sports conversation, right? Because usually the people who start some shit aren't the best. Like, you think about people who like a uh Dan Marino, right, in football, he was cold, but he ain't got shit on no Tom Brady.

SPEAKER_01: 58:57

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 58:57

You know what I'm saying? So once you start moving more current, that's kind of the problem. People become more talented, more developed. So in my eyes, I think Eddie Murphy is the funniest comedian across the board that I've ever come that I've ever been around. So he's funny in movies and stand-up. You know what I'm saying? In regular conversation, nigga in the interview, cracking your ass up. You know what I'm saying? So, because from bruh, I niggas forget. I want people to go back and re-watch life, bro. That nigga Eddie carried that movie, the whole movie. Don't give me, I liked Martin's point part in it, but he was a more serious role. He didn't really, he wasn't really the comedic actor that he normally is in other things, bro.

SPEAKER_01: 59:38

But he stood alone in Beverly Hills Cop one through three. Stood alone in the movies, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 59:46

But but he's but he's been able to transcend so many levels, like Daddy Daycare, nigga. Niggas was watching that movie.

SPEAKER_01: 59:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 59:52

You know what I'm saying? Like niggas was watching that movie.

SPEAKER_01: 59:55

No matter what movie he comes out with, you're gonna see it.

SPEAKER_04: 59:57

You're gonna see it, bro. Yeah, he's gonna be funny in it.

SPEAKER_02: 59:59

We got Richard Pryce. And Eddie Murphy.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:01

Nope. No, I wouldn't put Richard up there. I would just say, I would just stick with Eddie. I would put Eddie up there because I know the masses would agree with that. I would also put Martin up there because I feel like the masses would agree with that. Bernie is up there. Yeah, I think Bernie. Pick it. I think Bernie.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:20

I'm telling you, Bernie's number two. For real. Like Bernie gotta be two, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:25

Yeah, I would agree. Bernie's number two. Okay, so we got Eddie. We got Bernie. Y'all don't think Martin should go?

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:31

That's the fight with me. I'm liking Dave Chappelle more than Martin.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:34

I percause Dave Chappelle was on my mind rush more. Martin wasn't. I rock with Martin. I think he's a hilarious comic. But even when I go back and watch some of his, like, when he was hosting like Def Jam and stuff, some of it was kind of like, eh. Yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:47

But he was hosting, bro. When you host, you ain't supposed to be the the You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So, but his stand-up moments too. His stand-up, though.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:56

Like Runtail, Daddy. Yes, bro.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:58

Like, it's up there. Yeah. That's why I'm saying, like, him and Jamie Foxx's stand-up. And this is the thing. When you think about comedians, like, they don't necessarily have to transcend, transcend, like into movies and shit. Yeah, like uh like like Eddie Murphy. They don't have to do that. They stand up is if it's good by itself, like Jamie Foxx, bro. Like, what? And they did that. Like that's like a plus.

SPEAKER_04: 1:01:26

Yeah, like Laughing Palooza or something. Yeah, that shit was funny.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:29

I agree with Unique because if you put Martin in, that X is out one of the two. Dave or Jamie.

SPEAKER_04: 1:01:39

And see, for me, I don't think I would put Jamie on the Mount Rush for more for the culture. I think that, I think he's actually still under the radar, which is crazy. As long as Dude has been doing it, doing music and all these other things, I think that people still don't necessarily acknowledge his level of the city. And it's gonna be unfortunate because he didn't get credit.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:59

If this c if this kid would have passed away, you know what I'm saying, God forbid, when he was going through that six. He wouldn't have got his flowers like he should, and he and he needs to be getting them now. He would have got them afterward.

SPEAKER_04: 1:02:09

I ain't gonna lie, because I watched that that uh he called it a stand-up, but I watched that that production he came back with, and I got teary-eyed, bro, because when you trip off of the kind of person Jamie Foxx has always been, and then you kind of see how he he like portrayed himself on there, yeah, you can see that that situation really fucked with him. It really rocked him, bro. Thought he really wasn't gonna be here no more. And there was a particular part where he was talking about how he felt like his daughter saved his life because she came into that room, like started playing music, and he he literally started coming back. You know what I'm saying? And shit like that. It was like, damn.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:45

Yeah, I mean, but that that's what a near-death experience is supposed to do. It's supposed to change your mind about certain things so you can so you can live it the the right way, quote unquote. You know what I'm saying? But I mean, uh that's that's that's see, uh, it's like people gonna be like, he ain't got no emotion. It ain't that. I just I feel like certain things happen for certain things to happen. So you know what I'm saying? Like something in his life, like people in general, something in your life has to happen, maybe traumatically or maybe just like to open your eyes and make you see. You know what I'm saying? Something that's gonna make you be like, oh damn, like I gotta I gotta do right. You know what I'm saying? So I mean, some people, you know, because we don't know what was in the in his closet, you know what I'm saying? We don't know what was going on what weight he was dealing with. You know what I'm saying? So it's it may be impactful for uh to us to see him like be like, oh man, that really shook him up, like you said. But like like really what was going on in your life. You know what I'm saying? Like this, these are things that I I question. Like, what was really going on in your life? I think that that's necessary.

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:00

So, and to be honest, bro, I think that's something we should give in a gym. But before before we give a gym and we get out of here today, I want to finish this Mount Rushmore. Okay. So we got one last person, bro, because I don't I won't repeat it no more times. Uh the viewers just like, damn, hold on, wait. Y'all only did three. It's Eddie. We said Eddie, Bernie Mac, we said Dave Shapir. Right. We got them three. We need one more person that the masses would say, all right, yeah, that's a that's a solid.

SPEAKER_02: 1:04:28

I know another name we could throw, I wouldn't just throw out there where he said was Eddie Griffin.

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:33

I thought about him. And I used to watch that nigga stand up all the time. All the time. But he got one called dysfunctional family.

SPEAKER_02: 1:04:40

It's like for me, I put Eddie Griffin and Martin almost like comedic-wise. Oh no. Just comedic-wise.

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:45

I think I think that's the problem. Because for me, if you think if you take in, especially that period of time, because Eddie Griffin has obviously drifted far away from where he was. But for that period of time, Eddie Griffin was impactful, bro. And he was in every fucking thing.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:59

I disagree. Why you say that? I agree he was in everything, but he was not so impactful. He didn't have the impact that the majority of the comics that we named had. No, no, no. You're right, you're right. I would put him, he liked it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:05:13

I feel like we tiptoeing, and we ain't giving this, just go ahead and throw this nigga up there. Why Steve Harvey? Steve Harvey ain't getting no mission.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:19

Man, what you mean? He man, hey, we he's not even a good idea.

SPEAKER_02: 1:05:22

I would put GLC up there before Steve Harvey.

SPEAKER_04: 1:05:25

Why?

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:26

He ain't salty about it, bro. He just like it's like.

SPEAKER_04: 1:05:28

So Steve Harvey ain't that type of funny to me. Not me either. Have you watched some stand-ups though? Only King Comics.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:34

Yes. Yes, I've watched some stand-ups. And if you if you ask me, if you ask me, he was the weakest link on it. Out of all of them, DL. Out of all of them. Out of all of them, he was the weakest link, bro. Like the end. Yes. And then when you and think about this too. When you when you throw his his show into the mix of shows, it doesn't get mentioned. The Steve Harvey show ain't. Even him as a host, he's cool, but he ain't funny, nah. That nigga, I mean, and that's why. And on top of that, I didn't like the fact. I I I'm gonna throw some shade in there because I didn't like the fact that he danced around the topic that he threw, you know what I'm saying? The topic here that we're talking about, the Mount Reshmore. Bro, throw your people up, throw the people up there, bruh. Stop trying to make space for the people that he played.

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:25

But he also, did y'all peep, he put Yeah, all four of them. He put the whole Kings of Comedy as one face. He said, I want all four of the Kings of Comedy as one face. So me, Bernie DL, said it's one face, and then he said he's transformed. Yeah, he's because that's what threw me off, though. That's what I was like, all right, nah. You're doing a lot now.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:43

Said the entertainers from St. Louis, and he's not up there for me. And that's that's I wouldn't put him before him. Like, no, no.

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:52

But see, I think that's the problem with the conversation. I feel like Cedric the Entertainer is a great comedian. Yeah, but he's just not on the Mount Rush move. You know what I'm saying? Like, but there's only one person, though, bro. Like, who is this person that we can't find that is why they fit in there?

SPEAKER_02: 1:07:07

Why is they gonna give Martin, give it to him?

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:09

I feel like more, yes, I would.

SPEAKER_02: 1:07:11

You feel like it's Martin? I think Ant wanna put Jim Carrey, though.

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:14

Nah, nah, nah, nah. Jim Carrey was personal for me just because of how I grew up. All right. And I was a goofy.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:19

But that's a that's a good, that's a good debate though. What you mean? Jim Carrey and Martin. And Martin. I feel like I feel like Jim's gonna win because Jim came from In Living Color and made a hell of an impact.

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:33

But it depends on the age group. Because I feel like a lot of people, even in today's market, they watch reruns of Martin. They watch reruns of Martin.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:41

How? But they also watch all of Jim Carrey's movies.

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:44

I agree. I don't think they give him the comedian respect. I think they give him the actor respect. Yeah. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not sure. Okay, then we gotta go with Martin. And I'm cool with that. For the masses, I'm cool with that. Yeah, Jim Carrey was personal for me, because again, that's the type of comedy I am.

unknown: 1:08:01

Who?

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:02

So he said, sorry. Sorry, white people. Sorry, white folks. I mean, no, and shout out, coming, because it's some dope white comedians out there. Because even it's people Like George Lopez. Nah, I mean, he said he's fluffy. But it is some dope white comedians out there. Like Iglesius, Israel Iglesias, or Gabriel Iglesias, that's a nigga named. What do Trevor Noah do? He's black though, right? Trevor Noah is black, but I and I like him a lot too, but he wouldn't be up there for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:08:28

So let's recap our list real quick. So you know what I'm saying? You can spin out of here. What we got?

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:32

All right, yeah, yeah. We gotta get up out of here. But like, all right, so for the masses, we said Bernie Mack. No, we said Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy. Bernie Mack. Yep. Dave Chappelle. Yep. Martin. I feel like that's a solid list.

SPEAKER_02: 1:08:43

Debate us. Hit us in the comments. Whatever you want to do, comedic.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:46

Definitely. Let us know who we missing, man. I'm not gonna do that. All right. That's the Mount Rushmore. Y'all heard I heard Monte.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:55

It is what it is. It's the biggest. The largest. Hey, y'all hear about oh, bro. Shout out to uh Texas Native. Big ass the plug. But y'all hear y'all hear Beyonce just used his song to walk out to at her concert. She was like, uh he was he had posted about he was like, man, she hit me up. And I was like, of course. Like he said, I guess I'm part of the beehive. I'm like, all right, but I rock with that, bro, because he's gonna get a crazy amount of recognition just from that alone, just from her walking out to this song.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:23

But I mean, shout out to Big X and them New Dallas niggas. Them niggas doing their thing, but like, shout out to them.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:29

Hey, bro, this Texas culture, we finally getting used to it down here, man. I ain't gonna lie, it's been some it's been some cool stuff, some good culture to tap in.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:36

I ain't never gonna get you to this freaking traffic.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:39

That's the one thing, yeah. Hey, stop moving to Houston, by the way. Y'all niggas can visit, but still stop moving down here, cuz it's too many people, bro. They keep building new houses and shit, and the H E Bs can't take it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:51

Nah, matter of fact, hey, keep coming down here, especially y'all from St. Louis, keep coming down here. Because all I keep seeing is y'all coming and then saying y'all don't like it and leaving. Keep coming, please. Please. You know, take them with you.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:03

All right, y'all. So we're about to get up out of here, but I want to make sure that we leave y'all with a gym. So no matter what we talk about, whether it's funny, whether it's deep, wanna make sure we leave y'all with a little bit of advice. Make sure y'all have something to chew on for your week. Now, for me, I'm gonna I'm gonna go back to the Cameron situation and we're gonna talk a little bit about business. I feel like don't be scared to check a person. And it's okay to do that in a calm way. It's okay to come come to a person and let them know how you feel, enforce a boundary, and then move on from the situation. Everything ain't gotta be rah-rah-rah. I feel like we don't know how to stand on business without being mad or without being like overly upset. It's okay to be able to have a conversation with somebody, say this is what I feel, and then move on with your life and stand on that. Don't let nobody take you off your pit.

SPEAKER_02: 1:10:55

Me, man, um, I don't know why, but like progression and a momentum been in my mind. It's like weak.

SPEAKER_04: 1:11:04

I like that.

SPEAKER_02: 1:11:04

And for some reason I thought about whoever liked comics, juggernaut. Like in regards to momentum. Because you take one step one foot at a time, and then he builds momentum up and then he's unstoppable. So momentum is built one action at a time, stay with it. You know, every choice you make, every small step forward, is laying a simple breakdown for foundations for your future. You know, so just take it one day at a time and don't quit. You know, don't underestimate acquired power with showing up. If you just show up every day, even though you feel like you didn't progress the day before, if you keep going, you're gonna see the progression.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:43

What you got, Mante? For me, we spoke about this a little earlier about people just not being themselves. I just want people to focus on being authentic, you know, being real with yourself first and foremost, because being real with yourself is one of the most powerful choices you can make. You know what I mean? When you live honestly, owning your strengths, admitting your flaws, and staying true to your values, you're giving yourself freedom. You feel me? So, and the reason that matters is simple, you know, authenticity attracts the right people and and opportunities, you know what I'm saying? So people, you want to be around the right people. You don't want to be around like bums, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you're trying to, if you're trying to level up, you know, shout out to uh uh solo leveling, if you're trying to level up, you know what I'm saying, and and be better in life, you know what I'm saying? You want to be around those right people, you know what I mean? At the end of the day, you don't want the wrong people bringing you down, you know, especially when you trying to elevate in life, they telling you, like, hey, you you can't do this and you can't do that, you know what I'm saying? You don't want them people around you, you know. So at the end of the day, just be yourself, live with no regrets, and you know, just keep pushing forward.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:57

Respect, boundaries, and laughter. Them the trophies that matter the most. This has been another episode of the Church of the Trophies Podcast. Y'all check us out next time.