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Trenches 2 Trophies Podcast
Trenches 2 Trophies is a relatable, insightful podcast that blends humor and real-life lessons, aimed at helping urban youth find their path from struggle to success. Hosted by 3 young black men from St. Louis are who have now relocated to Houston, we dive into personal growth, leadership, and navigating life’s toughest challenges.
Trenches 2 Trophies Podcast
Unfiltered Truths: Say It With Your Chest!
Ant, Monte Corleone, and Uniq dive deep into generational identity, fatherhood, and setting boundaries in relationships during this raw, unfiltered conversation.
• Debating whether you're defined by your birth decade or the era you grew up in
• Reflecting on life lessons learned through personal tribulations
• Discussing different approaches to parenting and disciplining children
• Exploring the complex dynamics and boundaries in blended families
• Sharing perspectives on household rules when adult children live at home
• Examining cultural expectations around food sharing at gatherings
• Analyzing recent entertainment industry disputes between major figures
• Laughing about common barber mishaps and shared experiences
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All right, what's cracking y'all? It's Trent at the Trophy Squad coming back at y'all with something new. We're trying something different today. It's your boy, ant, coming in at that host position and with my co-host, monte Corleone, and Unique Artistry, what it do? We want to give y'all some different content. We want to talk about some bullshit. Come off a little bit off the cuff.
Speaker 2:Ain't nothing, I say BS.
Speaker 1:Shit. But then we're going to go over different topics, you know, and, uh, hopefully we capture some a little bit different for y'all, all right so let me ask this question, because it just this just popped in my head today.
Speaker 2:it's random, I guess. Do we consider the year you're born or as the year you grew up, or like the decade, what you mean up as like Like the decade, what you mean you grew up as, like I grew up. You born Mike. You born in the 80s, mm-hmm. Are you an 80s baby or a 90s baby?
Speaker 3:80s. Baby Grew up in the 90s. That's what I'm saying, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:So that's why I was talking to somebody today.
Speaker 2:They was born in the 80s and they said if that was the case. But that's not the case with me Because I'm born in the early 90s.
Speaker 3:Early 90s yeah.
Speaker 2:And grew up through the 90s to the 2000s. So what would that be, though? So it's going to go out to the decade you're born yeah, as your 80s baby, or 90s baby, or when you grew up, y'all agree.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah grew up, y'all agree yeah yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I've struggled with that, though, because them niggas who be born in like 99 to us when they had 90s baby.
Speaker 2:I'm like then you never saw, I think, the cutoff. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, like for the 97 97 right that's the word cut off for these niggas like how it goes if your birth year ends in 90. Whatever you were 90s baby, you know. I'm saying 91 through 9, you know. So it's just.
Speaker 1:It's just just what it is, you know he got a rebuttal to it for real like 99 disgusting like I think it's more about how them niggas act and they created a separation, because it's like I don't know what it is, bro, but like, even if you I don't care if you there's got to be some psychology facts out there or something niggas born between like 90 to 95 decently regular, the niggas born after that I don't know what the fuck wrong with that. Look, man, they got some shit wrong with
Speaker 3:them all the time that's the time when the young they was, when they was young, fucking, that's. That's them, that's the kids that really ain't had no guidance and shit like that. But they still 90s baby. I don't get that how they acting them niggas in your generation See, hey, I don't give a if that nigga was born on December 31st at 1159.
Speaker 1:He's a 90s baby.
Speaker 3:Right before 2000. Boy, he's a 90s baby.
Speaker 1:That shit crazy though. So he was a 90s baby but grew up in the 2000s. That's interesting. I'm glad I ain't gotta over explain Like I ain't gotta do that shit.
Speaker 3:So, whoever you're having that conversation with. They're a little delusional.
Speaker 2:I ain't gonna put them out there, cause that individual definitely said don't be putting me out there in the pocket, hey man, you know me, whoever you is, I'm just fucking with you.
Speaker 1:That's interesting though, bro, cause I don't really trip off that. Like I told y'all, I was telling y'all. The other day, I seen the video About a bunch of college kids Saying, like what year considers you old? And they was like Anything with a 19 in front of it. Like if you say, if you get ready to say, if they ask you what year you was born, you get ready to say uh, 19,. They like stop you old.
Speaker 2:Like period we were born in the 1900s, yeah.
Speaker 3:Think about how that sounds. The 1900s.
Speaker 1:It sounds ancient as fuck. That's because you jumped to the beginning of shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like but just thinking about that concept. Well, it sounds. It sounds like you. Yeah, that's crazy another different century.
Speaker 1:It was crazy we are in the day. It is but like it's out of there, like we. Jurassic Park age or something. Oh great grandparents and shit, these, this, these new bridge niggas. They don't have no like thought process, they just be doing shit, they all instinct yeah, and then I can't.
Speaker 3:You can't talk to them because you're going to sound old, Exactly Like you need to learn something.
Speaker 1:Listen to me, boy. Somebody said that, bro, because they made a post talking about, unfortunately, a young dude got gunned down. There was a baby in the car. The baby died too, and they was like damn nigga. It used to be a time where I'm out for a word. Yeah, it used to be a time where it was rules you know if a nigga had a baby with him. They got a pass type shit Yep, nigga, you sound old as fuck talking about shit like that. Nigga ain't gonna catch them.
Speaker 2:In another time, like this Right and patience.
Speaker 1:We was just talking about that, though, like back in the day. Bruh niggas would wait years. They'd catch you like Five years later, thinking you got away.
Speaker 2:Type shit like Ay, let me ask y'all this Real quick At the age we are now, has this happened to you yet, where you sit back and analyze the tribulations you went through and you've been like, damn, I understand why I went through that? Now, yeah, it can be any circumstance that you know what I'm saying you think about.
Speaker 1:I mean, it taught that, taught you something. Sometimes it take a conversation or some shit to happen. Now that remind me of a time back then, like like I go through some shit with my wife and I'll be like dang, that thing I went through back then prepared me for this conversation, because now I can walk through it with a little bit like wisdom. But back then I was like what the hell happened? Like I could have popped off, or you know I'm saying whatever the case was.
Speaker 2:But now I'm like I've been here before, you know I'm saying then I had you sit back and you more calmly while you deliver. Yeah, what's up monte?
Speaker 3:shit.
Speaker 1:I think about that shit every day yeah, I feel like that's some old man shit.
Speaker 3:Sometimes I'll be just riding in silence what's the situation you want to speak on, where you feel like that, like you just sit back and you're like I mean I learned from that so, like I already told y'all this story, so my mom used to always tell me, like when I used to get in trouble and I used to do shit, she'd be like man, you know, when you get behind bars can't nobody help you. She's like you need to stop doing this, you need to stop doing that. So you know, don't nobody, listen to nobody. You know what I mean. Like it don't matter if you look up to the person, you still gotta bump your head on your own so I learned when I was sitting in jail in the chair.
Speaker 3:I remember I was sitting in a yellow chair, motherfucking the steel legs. I was looking down and I'm not. I was on the phone with my mom and I was like damn, ma. You told me this shit was gonna happen, like damn. So that's when I realized I need to listen more. You know what I'm saying. Stop always taking shit for granted and being like, oh man, that's, that's, that's cool.
Speaker 2:So take heed to what people are telling you.
Speaker 3:Um, yes, if it comes with experience, you know what I mean. Like, wisdom.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like when your father tell me things like I always, I always listen to your father because it's always coming with knowledge and love at that. You know what I mean it might be like a bullshit, you're not. One time my son he's my stepson his father came in the crib and my son allowed him to go upstairs, or or something like that. Bro, something happened to where, no matter of fact, he tried to come in the house and your pops was there and he was like hey, you don't just let no man walking Like. He was upset at me Cause I let him in. You know what I mean Like. And he was like walking like. You know how he walk, like he own shit, right.
Speaker 3:So I was like I was looking at your pops. I was like all right, you know, that's cool. So we had just moved in and got something. Pops was on his knee and he was like hey, you don't know, fix it. He was like you don't never let no man come in your house Be walking around like this, you don't. I was like you don't never let no man come in your house, be walking around like this. I was like all right, cool. So ever since then and it wasn't. I didn't even think about it, bro. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I ain't even think about it like that. You're just thinking about it from a man's standpoint of you just allowing certain things.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because you're going to open a door for people to be able to put certain buttons.
Speaker 3:Yep, so you got to sit, dude do. It said what boundaries it's. Ever since then it's been like hey, bro, hold your horses, bro at the door, we'll be back, you know, man.
Speaker 2:Jamie.
Speaker 1:Foxx straight up, that's some interesting shit though, like y'all ever think about, cuz I know I know you need, I know you rock with like Viking shows and like a lot of like of medieval times type shit. But when you think about it, bro. That's how they used to protect they stuff. Like, bro, you wasn't allowed to just like show up at no man's property if you did, he was grabbing something like.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying he was grabbing weapons.
Speaker 2:He was immediately like what you doing here like you know what I'm saying, let me find out that your wife let them in the house like it was a different energy.
Speaker 1:You got him in my house.
Speaker 3:See, I ain't never really had no problem because you know we got cameras. So it's never been a situation where he's in my crib when I'm not there. So I ain't never really, you know, I ain't never felt no type of way Because you know better, Don't go in my crib when I ain't there, type shit.
Speaker 1:Boy, I'm like a vampire.
Speaker 3:When I go visit somebody, especially a female, you gotta you gotta invite me in, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I gotta get an invite right, because I I've been in situations like even doing, you know, my kids mom, uh, and you know we wasn't in the best place. But regardless, see, you know, I'm gonna do interactions with my kids, dropping things off, stuff like that. I'm at the door. I wasn't even trying to assume that I would be able to step in. You know what I'm saying Because, also, we had boundaries in place. We wasn't in the best place as well. I ain't want her to, you know, think certain things. So I'm going to wait for this invite. Now you can come in, okay, you know I'm saying so, yeah, I'm just also trying to make sure them boundaries is in place, but yeah, but see you a different person, bro, like it's a sign of maturity, though, you know.
Speaker 3:I mean, like you ain't trying to prove no point, I think. I think bro been constantly trying to prove that he got bigger balls than me.
Speaker 1:Probably, but that comes from an insecure place and I think that's what a lot of us have to realize, even in other spaces. When somebody testing you, bruh, when niggas is pressing you on some shit, it's because they're uncomfortable. You know what I'm saying? They already in a space to where they got to do or say something to you because they can't fucking take it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. Like, that's usually what that is so like you ain't even got to, return that energy a lot of the time, like you know I don't I mean, yeah, that was that, but that's what we talking about like you let him in the house because you wasn't even tripping off that like you ain't even you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:This dude intimidating me, let me puff my chest yeah, like I ain't little man man, but see Like if it come to that.
Speaker 1:You already know Like, but but see, that's the thing.
Speaker 3:That's why people that come from where I come from ain't going to trip off, nothing like that, because I know where you came from. It's like I ain't tripping off you, bro, like it's cool.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. When you think about it, bro, kids realize shit hella late, shit hella late. So like with you playing things, how you play, that shit, he gonna realize, you know, in five to ten years, like damn, like he was solid, that whole motherfucker. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like they gonna realize shit at a when he when he get his girl he you know I'm saying he in a position maybe he have a son or something he gonna look back like damn, okay, like now it makes sense. But I also feel like that's the role of a man, bro. I've been reading so much stuff about like fatherhood and shit lately. Like you know what I'm saying. I'm glad you just went there.
Speaker 2:I was gonna ask a question segue yes, sir, so with you stepping into fatherhood you know I'm saying now that's coming um what have been some parenting practices or tactics you've seen other parents use that you don't agree with?
Speaker 1:that's interesting. So me and my wife talked about a lot because we both had different upbringings Mine a little bit more, it had less boundaries but it was a rougher upbringing. She had a smoother upbringing but it was a lot more strict. So we able to talk about a lot because we had different results from that type of approach. Right, but as far as specific things that we've seen other parents do, that we wouldn't do, I think the only thing that's really popped out for us is like leashes and just like who we, who we let our people around like we talked about when the baby's born, like cats, not finna, be around like that.
Speaker 1:Like you know, I'm saying if and for what. I told what I told her. Right, because I know everybody gonna want to come see the baby, but like the priority needs to be her. If you're coming to like support and help and see the baby and all that stuff, understanding like that's gonna come with you helping her, helping her rest, helping, you know, helping her, take care of the baby if that's what you're here to do and all that fun stuff, but you're not here to just dance around with the baby while she still has to work, and you know entertaining her.
Speaker 1:You're saying your wife, my wife, yeah, yeah, my wife, let me specify but like that's, it's just like small stuff like that, like the boundaries that we're gonna put in place once the baby's born, like kissing the baby and all these things that people tend not to care about. Right, like I'm, I came from like like a lot. I ain't have a lot of traditions like growing up, but me and my wife talked about like things we want to make sure we start and, uh, have go the right way, you know, I mean, and like I think that's really all there's been outside of that, just like we're not gonna gentle parent but we ain't gonna abuse our kids, so we trying to find like a middle ground.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying like what about you?
Speaker 2:my tape with you being a parent. So and being what about you obviously being a parent, but also um a stepfather, so, like, what are some boundaries? I heard it was you had to adjust to what is you? How'd you go about doing that?
Speaker 3:funny you ask. So something that I've had to adjust to is the level of discipline I give the girl versus the boy.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:So it's crazy because the boy is so rebellious to his father so you feel like you gotta be harder on him. But what niggas don't realize is your babies, your little girls, be manipulating the shit out of y'all. Mm-hmm, and that's what my daughter's been like kinda doing to me, mm-hmm. But I be flipping it on them because they're a splitting image of me, dog. They do the shit that I used to do. So I'm catching them doing it and I'm like bro, what the fuck is y'all doing? Like stop. You know what I'm saying and I'm trying not to be real hard on y'all but, as I'm seeing it, I'm having to be as hard as I was with the boy. So that's something that I'm adjusting to right now Because one, I'm seeing the girls rebel against their mom, so I had to discipline that. So it's just an all-around. But as far as my stepson, I know a lot of fellas gonna hate me for this, but it wasn't no boundaries with me. You know what I mean. Like at a point, all right. So this for y'all.
Speaker 2:Let me, let me ask you this then so was it? Was it? Do you say it wasn't on boundaries because there is a discussion you and her had, or you just it wasn't not even no discussion, it was just how it was for you and your household so I'm gonna paint the picture.
Speaker 3:I was in their household first. I moved in with them. So when you step in as a stepfather and I wasn't even a stepfather at that point, I was just a boyfriend but when you step in and you see, uh, there isn't guidance from a male figure like his father, you know what I'm saying. At that young of an age and you have to kind of step up and you know what I'm saying. Like at first that was my little partner. You know what I'm saying. Before it came my, before he became my, my stepson. So we developed a relationship and I felt like I was teaching him certain things that he wasn't learning from what?
Speaker 2:should be his father. You know, you know what I mean right.
Speaker 3:So and for for me to speak on fathers that have children that just aren't being there, and if you close by, because in my situation the father was close but didn't come to see his son, so for me that meant no boundaries for me, because you're not even stepping up to come see him, so I ain't. So people can't get mad at that, like, like males, that ain't really stepping up. They can't get upset at a man that's that's actually stepping up and trying to raise your kid shit that's just like.
Speaker 1:That's just like a dude you getting a job that your homie didn't get. He bro, he pissed, he mad that you are able to do it successfully, because most cats that don't parent bro is out of fear. They don't think that they're gonna be good at it or they don't think that they deserve to be a parent, something deep down, like that's usually what the hell it is. You know what I'm saying. So it's like they can't looking at you at, uh, from a different. Oh god damn, perfectly smack that like how you hit that thing. I got good, aim hit that thing, you hear me?
Speaker 2:chill out bro. Oh, I got. It's funny you, you brought this up, but I want to. I want to say what I don't agree with as a parent real quick, but I want to spend a block on what you said as far as being a boyfriend moving into a household. So I got a scenario, but but to say I guess what I don't agree with is something that I've been seeing that parents do in the form of punishment, and it's not even because this is my occupation, but I don't be agreeing with parents be choosing to cut their kid's head.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, I've seen it numerous times. But what you think? Cutting your child's head If they not listening, they're not doing this and that they acting up in school. You know what I'm saying and they value.
Speaker 1:You see that they value their hair um, I don't really like capital punishment in general. I don't really like like the like changing the appearance of somebody in a way like that. Like you know what I mean. I think that's kind of strange. I think that we have to be more creative with how we punish our kids in ways like that, but also I think that that's the way we do it. I feel like sitting somebody down recording a Facebook video. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 1:See, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's different, but I also think that, like if it comes, let's say, let's say the little kid got locks right, but they don't do what they supposed to do. They don't. They don't uphold their side of the thing like it costs a lot of money to maintain locks right, you know what I'm saying so, if you consistently fucking up, I may not.
Speaker 1:That's a reward for you. You know what I'm saying. So we're gonna have to, we're gonna have to figure something out. Either you're gonna have to work and pay to maintain your own hair but, forcing you to cut.
Speaker 2:It is a different story, like context, then, because it's the thing, because then you got parents that they choose to grow their child's hair out yeah, and then that kid ends up loving their hair you gonna cut their hair a lot of people.
Speaker 1:They don't have no attachment to what their kids have an attachment to. They feel like they are the progenitor of everything that is that kid, so everything that that kid experiences or possesses. They feel like it's their doing and their influence and they got you know what I'm saying dominion over it. So certain people, like, think differently. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Look, hurt people. Hurt people For sure. So when you feel like your kid done, did something wrong, you know as, in a parent perspective, you upset, so you want them to feel your pain. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:but that's wow but, here's the thing the punishment ain't supposed to be pain, it's supposed to be a lesson, correct? So you're not accomplishing anything by trying to cause them pain or suffering. You know what I'm saying? Because that's going to make them cry, that's going to make them feel a certain type of way about you, and stuff like that. You should, like I said, you need to sit down, talk to them, but you need to figure out a creative way to make this a lesson and not they feel they feel like their punishment fit their crime or whatever it is yeah, I mean man I mean, I get the emotional side of
Speaker 1:it like I get that. You know I'm saying I get an emotional reaction, whooping the kid, all that. I understand the feelings behind it, but like, like he said, like I feel like one thing that I always rock with when, um, when I think of like dads right was michael kyle from my wife and kids, like don't get me wrong, you need to be punished. But it doesn't always have to come in the form of like violence or like rage, yeah, like this, this, like again capital punishment, like embarrassment. Sometimes it just has to be a creative way to get you to understand what I'm trying to teach you.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? Like that's because, at the end of the day, it's hard for people to learn through that situation, because when you, all they learn is abuse, all they learn is like this is the consequence of this shit happening. They don't learn oh, I need to stop. They just know that I'm gonna get my ass beat if I do this happening. They don't learn oh, I need to stop. They just know that I'm gonna get my ass beat if I do this. So then you carry that into your next situation. They know, okay, if my kid do this, I know to beat their ass, because that's what happened to me. Like it's not a. It doesn't fix the situation, it just gives a reason to why you do what you do. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, like, but we again, the behaviors don't change you just. Well, I whooped your ass when you did that when you was young. Well, why, why are we still doing this? Yeah, we ain't nobody sat back and asked why the last four generations are doing the same shit you know, like, you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, bro, like y'all seen that video of the little girl, she got caught or she got suspended or something fighting yeah, and
Speaker 3:then the mom was like telling the dad, come in here and handle this. And he was like all right, he went in there. He was like go ahead, Get out of here, I'm going to handle this. So he folded the belt up and was like so what happened? And he started smacking the belt like he was giving her a whooping and she was like ah, but she was telling him bro, bro, that is me.
Speaker 3:I told I swear, that is me, bro, like I'm gonna be like yeah, I ain't from the bro because I know, bro, I I'll be look when I see, when I hear my wife talking to the kids, it's like an angry tone, like she mad. Like because they ain't listening or something like that.
Speaker 2:Huh, that's what we heard.
Speaker 3:I understand, but I be trying to tell her like, hey you, she had to learn.
Speaker 2:You see me learning.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because y'all have seen how I am Got to interrupt the pattern.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:And I've been working on it, you know, hey, but I got to practice what I preach, though, because I'd be like hey, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing, bro. It's different. When you see, I teach that at work, bro it's one thing to know what to do, it's another thing to apply. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I think like that's what a lot of people do. When we sit down and we talk to people, we give them information like they don't know. They know, bro, they just got mad or they got. You know what I'm saying. They got overwhelmed and they did something out of character. They understand the information. They trying to figure out how to control themselves. Like that's really the problem.
Speaker 3:I get it these fathers ain't doing nothing. I know they matter.
Speaker 1:Fact, I'm into you, I'm gonna call you out the other day, bro, because you said something about. No, I didn't like that, but like because it's something you want to say.
Speaker 1:It's something it's something I learned from you because I was talking to my wife about it and, to go back, it actually answers one of your other questions, uh, but in a different way. So something I learned from you specifically is actually like how you treat your kids with their meals right, because the other day you were saying like you make sure that they finish it and I was like I don't remember that because when because when I live with you, I remember you doing checks right.
Speaker 1:I remember you like qualifying a certain amount for them to eat and then making sure that they ate a certain amount and then be like, all right, cool, because like, let's say, you get them a full plate of like chicken fingers and fries, you check and make sure it'll be like eat another chicken finger, then you could get up. You know what I'm saying and I think that I like that approach to it because it doesn't force the kid into like eating a whole bunch of food because they may not be hungry they may legitimately like not be hungry but you were like, hey, I was eat this much because you need at least this much for energy you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:the goal, yeah, but the reason why I say like I give a lot that you said that, did you observe that? But it's changed now, because now that they're older and I now know your portions, is not as much. Yeah, yeah, I know your capability.
Speaker 3:you know what I'm saying of eating.
Speaker 2:So I'm not giving you as much that you should be able to finish.
Speaker 3:You know, so you're not getting up. Yeah, I was just about to say that I was like all he did was look, he said all, all right, give them smaller portions, they're gonna eat all of it. Save money.
Speaker 1:yeah, that's smart though, but I just like the approach because when I thought about it I was like that's something I'm gonna put in my kid bag. You know what I'm saying as far as like when I'm gonna approach that and I was like, yeah, I like, I like, because I remember being sat at the table for hours and not being hungry. Bro, I'm like I'm not, finna, eat this like I'm not you can see me here all night.
Speaker 2:I'm not because then it's like you're telling your kid that and you're establishing, like I said, the goals of a point, like all right now they're, they're seeing an end to this yeah let me just get this much or do this much.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm saying I also think you create trauma around food. You know I'm saying you create a issue. That's why kids don't like sitting at the table to eat, no more. They want to go in their room. It's a comfort. They want to run in their cave. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So it's like yeah, I think about this point. I just give my kids whatever they ask for, and I see a lot of people subscribing to that mindset nowadays.
Speaker 1:Like somebody, a girl made a video the other day. People was on her, on her ass. I do that all the time. Uh, somebody was on her ass because she was like people was talking about not giving kids ribs at the barbecue, which I'm going to talk to y'all about. So people was talking about not giving kids ribs at the barbecue, but she was like nigga, if my kids want ribs and you don't give my kid ribs, I'm going to drive to the store and go put them bitches on the grill myself to make sure my kids get some ribs. She was like if they want hibachi, they getting hibachi. If they want Oxtails and rice and peas, they getting oxtails and rice and peas. And so she was going in Right, and then a lot of people Was like that's why kids Spoil nowadays, that's why they don't have no value system.
Speaker 1:You get them anything they want. They don't earn it. Da da, da, da, da, da, da da. So, with that being said, first question how y'all feel like your kids deserve whatever they want? Like if they ask for something, do you feel like they should just get it because they want it?
Speaker 3:all right, no and no all right why the hell I can't? Have ribs. It's not that you can't have ribs, but think about our kids bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I said I'd give them what they want. What they want Hot dogs.
Speaker 1:But let's say they do. Let's say Auntie spoiled them one day and gave them one, and now they want a rib. They see the rib and they want the rib. You can have the rib.
Speaker 2:That's the thing. If they're presented with a choice and they can see those choices, I'll be intrigued to what they want.
Speaker 1:So some people, because they gonna want some mac and cheese and sweet potatoes, but it's a lot of that. You know. Normally at a black person's barbecue it's two racks of ribs, maybe three. You know what I'm saying, and cats ain't. You know what I'm saying? Go ahead, bro.
Speaker 2:Y'all know.
Speaker 1:I'm just asking. I'm a boneless.
Speaker 2:Boneless. Hey, man Say what you want, fam, I'm a boneless.
Speaker 3:That's some bullshit. That's some straight bullshit. How you gonna, how you gonna not get a kid. I thought this was a different concept. How you, you gonna not get a kid. Hey, I thought I thought this was a different concept. How you ain't gonna get a kid no, real, because you ain't got that many another argument people said was they, they don't eat them kids go especially at a barbecue or something like that.
Speaker 1:They're gonna pick over it, they're gonna eat a couple bites and be like I'm done, or gonna run around and go play or whatever right. So now the ribs is quote unquote wasted in their opinion.
Speaker 3:So the niggas that's watching the motherfuckers not eating.
Speaker 2:Don't eat that shit then since you've seen the kids nibbling on it.
Speaker 1:Why don't you go finish it? How about that? I ain't even sure about that?
Speaker 3:how many kids have you?
Speaker 2:witnessed niggas was like I'll go another one, motherfucker.
Speaker 3:Did not finish the rim.
Speaker 1:Uncle Charles and shit, look, look, look, another barbecue and another rim he turned the plate over in a trash can, so nobody see him dropping it in there, he folding it up, look, look look, he ain't even eat that shit.
Speaker 3:You see that, joe. You see that Joe. You see that Jerry.
Speaker 2:But look though you got them parents that do be eating their kids' last Little two chicken fingers, I mean, and a lot, of, a lot of parents do Like clean up, like you know what I'm saying. They'll see what they got and clean up after Garbage disposals.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, but it's. I mean they like well, shit, I didn't buy this for y'all, I bought this for the adults. Or I bought this for the grown folks.
Speaker 2:To answer your question straight up, I'm not going to look at nobody crazy. They getting their kids some ribs. I'm not going to, just off the rip, give my child no ribs. But y'all know how we rock bruh.
Speaker 3:Yeah, y'all know how we rock bruh Like at a barbecue.
Speaker 2:Our barbecue is for everybody, bruh Like we ain't tripping off and the burgers gone. You know what I mean. You gonna be upset. You gonna be upset. You didn't eat yeah.
Speaker 3:You know I made a whole pot of it. Yeah, I was kind of a little upset, but because it was fire, Because it was good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But it wasn't because people ate it, it was just because it was good. Yeah, I was like damn man you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:You should have made your own bowl of the crib. It's your fault.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 3:I was busy barbec that bro, like you know. I had went back to the crib after our barbecue shower came back and everything was gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I ain't thinking about it.
Speaker 1:It'd be like, but it also depends on who you invite, bro? What about that?
Speaker 2:roast. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:What about that?
Speaker 2:roast oh hold.
Speaker 1:Two and a half orders.
Speaker 3:Hey man, hey man. We had like 15 people in the kitchen with a two-person roast Bro, the roast, didn't, bro, man? It didn't last.
Speaker 1:And then it was boneless, it was like shredded roast, it looked like barbacoa, it was just a little and it wasn't number six ounces in there.
Speaker 3:You got a house full of people and you got a half of a Tupperware bowl full of cheese you like the bread from Outback Right Bruh hey, half of it.
Speaker 1:Half of it. Right there, definitely half A piece, a corner piece, that's it.
Speaker 3:That wild fan man. Look at him. Hey, nah, Let me spend a block on that question.
Speaker 2:I was going to ask y'all man, what's up, bro? It's kind of, it's my take, kind of live this for real. Nah, not for real, but I still want to know what y'all think. So say, you moved in with your girl, your girlfriend. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Y'all dating Y'all, not you, girl your girlfriend, you know I'm saying yeah, I'm not. You're not still father, you're dating and you have. A son is in the household, about 25, between 20 to 25 years old, and they supposed to be paying rent and they didn't pay the rent for them. What is it okay for you to go holler at him, boyfriend? No why not, let's say, give context you paying some of the bills too you moving into his house.
Speaker 3:He a grown man, even though you paying bills. That's his mama house. That's not your responsibility or your business. That's his mama responsibility.
Speaker 1:I agree with that to a degree. I think that the most that should happen is mom should holler at him. He can beat her. You know what I'm saying? He can beat her to support her, to back her up, or whatever the case is, to be a presence for her, but as far as him initiating that conversation. I think that it welcomes conflict.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying and that's what I was thinking ready to say I don't think there's nothing wrong with, like you said, being a president.
Speaker 1:Like I said, you're a boyfriend yeah, I think. If you're a stepfather yeah you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:that's a different scenario. Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3:No because hey, nope, I'm 25 for y 25. So y'all got to go back to 25. In your mama house, what this nigga standing here for Like come on now. His presence going to make you pissed off, just because he right there and your mama trying Like what he doing? What?
Speaker 1:he here, for I get you because you feel like you're getting pressed. However, you're late on the rent. You finna get pressed. If it was, if you was in a and if you was at apartment complex, they'd be fucking pressing you. Bro. Like you know what I'm saying like, unfortunately, that's. That's the consequence that comes with that. Is it uncomfortable? Yeah, and I do. I see what you're saying emotionally. Yeah, but do you have a right to be that way?
Speaker 3:no, no, not at all, not at all. But see, we gotta turn this back around on the one person that could change this shit, the stepfather. No, the mom. She could tell him hey, if you hear things get out of hand, you can go ahead, come out here, stand. You know, just watch my back. You know I'm saying make sure my son don't, but at this you shouldn't even have to do that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So you feel like that's an escalation point. You feel like that's some.
Speaker 1:If I can't get to my manager, go to HR type shit.
Speaker 2:Like he would be HR, but isn't it a we ain't going to say chain of command, but a hierarchy in the household, right? Even though I'm a stepfather, this is my house, right? No, how come I'm taking the lead of the house Because he came in late?
Speaker 3:because he moved in, because you moved in. So that means, no matter what you came in, you didn't invite somebody in.
Speaker 2:And now this boy ain't taking care of the business. Okay, that's the mama business, that's the mama business, but I'm the one that's bringing in the bread, I'm paying the bills and you late.
Speaker 3:That's not your business, bro.
Speaker 2:I come late, I'm paying, okay, and you ain't contributing bro, so you got to go.
Speaker 3:Nope, nope. You should have bought your own shit and moved her in and had him get his own shit.
Speaker 2:That's how you do something like that. If you got that type of situation, now we finna move out.
Speaker 1:The boy can't come I think that's what he mean, like he think that that's the only solution then you got the scenarios with him, I'm picking a son or the order.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm saying our man but, and see, that's I just.
Speaker 1:We just watched, uh, some family, a fiance episode and they was talking about that. Let literally just happen, bro. But y'all gotta understand something, bro. So this is a thing that I always got an argument with. Now, don't get me wrong, anybody can get married, right? Y'all agree with that.
Speaker 1:Anybody can get married yeah but you know, the context of marriage was created under uh, I think it's catholic law, so christian, like early christianity. So if you don't believe in god in any context, it was a religious format, right? So if you don't believe in god in any format, any context, you shouldn't be getting married. Okay, right, because marriage says that the man and the woman, they can become one flesh.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:Once they marry right. So technically, in that context, as the man now me and your mama is one. So what I come up with and what we do is one thing. So that's what she say and what I say is one thing. So does he have to respect that? No, does there need to be a conversation between the mom and the son? Absolutely, but then there has to be a separation. You know I'm saying I think that a lot of people uh, forget that, like your kids are supposed to leave you, bro, yeah you know what I'm saying, like they supposed to go be with somebody else.
Speaker 1:You know, I mean so that that whatever's clinging, why? First of all he's 25, like do he need help? Or there's. Like you know, I'm saying like where we at at this point like don't get me wrong, I ain't saying kick him out, I'm just saying like where we at what we doing even though you know, even though he paying bills, it's like what we doing why he's still
Speaker 1:here it don't make sense. Yeah, like progression, what's the plan, what's the end? Yeah, like, even if he in college or something like that's cool when he graduates, like what's what we doing? Like, what's the plan?
Speaker 3:but I also feel that if the son had any respect anyway, yeah he've already hollered at his mom, so ain't no need for him so even in a gentle context.
Speaker 1:So let me paint the picture for you. Let's say let's say he 10 days behind rent, behind on rent, right, mom's texting. He said, all right, I got you, but he, he still ain't did what he's supposed to do. Stepdad, walk up, hey, real quick. Your mom said, uh, she's still waiting on the rent money, everything cool. You straight like is that is that cool, you know? I'm saying because he checking in, like hey yo, your mom was telling me about the rent money. It you got it.
Speaker 1:When you plan on like you know, I'm saying like if he check in on him, is that cool. Or you feel like if a dude come in with some energy by himself, that's what make it a problem it's the energy okay like, because if, if, if a person it was, it was a scenario right there, so it was just so.
Speaker 2:You look, you can see, dude, you know I'm saying yeah, it's a little aggression behind how you coming on?
Speaker 1:I definitely yeah, nah, nope, straight as a mug too, bro.
Speaker 3:He flexed up like yeah, that's, that's hey see, remember we had that conversation about looking a nigga in his eyes and shit like looking a man in his eyes and shit Like that's the one I'd be like nope, it's like your mama said you was late on the rent.
Speaker 2:Nope.
Speaker 3:Yeah, nope, you heard me when I said the first time. Nope, nigga, I'm moving out right now. What you want to fight, what's up? Yeah.
Speaker 1:I, you want to fight what's up? I think that's the thing, bro. Somebody need to do something. 25?, because 25 is wild. I get early 20s Again. College or you just working on some shit. Maybe you a late bloomer, that's cool, I get that.
Speaker 2:25, 26, we at an age now, but I ain't going to lie. I said in my mind it all could depend, but I ain't going to lie. I said in my mind you know it's all going to depend, but I ain't going to lie. I said in my mind my daughter I'm cool with her staying around that age, I feel like you say that until she's dating.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. You got dudes pulling up to the house all the time coming to pick her up, take her out.
Speaker 3:Or her trying to move in because they trying to move out.
Speaker 2:Come on bro.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying because we're gonna get, but that's the choices you're gonna be faced with right because because I'm hey, but look, I'm just saying yeah look, because I'm saying you gotta think about you, gotta think us, you gotta think about us getting older and being more lenient. And then her meeting a respectable man that you like, oh man, all right, you know, I mean like they ain't doing nothing in my house, you know, I'm saying like he actually what if they do?
Speaker 1:because she grown, she's 20 yeah but what if? What if this man straight respect you to the point?
Speaker 3:where he like I'm, I'm not going I'm my father's son.
Speaker 1:I'm a boy uh-huh, oh, he's saying.
Speaker 2:It's different.
Speaker 1:He wouldn't let A male wife have done. She wouldn't have been able to do that. Oh, that's what he's saying Like, as a father, he wouldn't have let his Daughter be in that position?
Speaker 2:Nah, I don't Nah.
Speaker 3:I mean yeah, so I get.
Speaker 1:However, I want you to understand this. That's also unfair.
Speaker 2:It is what it is. You know what I'm talking about and I realize that In this word like, I'm, like, I'm just.
Speaker 1:My brother-in-law told me the other day. He was like you got to understand this though the girl bring a different set of problems than the dude does. The dude gets to come home by himself. That girl get bringing a baby bring. You know what I'm saying. Now she's pregnant. Now you got to deal with all these other things in that situation, so you do have to treat them situations differently. However, you also have to think about when you have both kids. You got a boy and a girl. They looking at you like.
Speaker 2:That's why I said when you said stay in my crib like it's different. I've already thought about those things and putting in boundaries where it's gonna be similar things I'm gonna be able to do. It's a lot of the same thing, but when you said letting the boy stay in my crib, that's when they was gonna end if you said she could stay there till she 30, bro, she 28, 25, oh, but you know what I'm saying, like she grown 24 like she all right.
Speaker 2:So think about the 25 year old woman you were dating, bro we had our own spot since 20.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm but so we felt when you were dating the 25 out here.
Speaker 2:Do you feel like those 25 year olds?
Speaker 1:you could have seen them still living with, living with their parents my 25 year old, no, but I also think that again, that come with a different set of things, because she had her own spot.
Speaker 2:Nah, I'm talking about the ones you were dating out here that you was having. Oh yeah, you talking about those type of women that were around that age group.
Speaker 1:My bad, I had to think Exactly, Look, I be purging people from my memory dog. Exactly, purge them, that's done. I'm like who?
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, okay, okay, yeah, that chapter closed we done on that. So nah, so a woman out here that you were dating around out here, yeah, you feel like those women in that age group you would have been surprised they would live with their parents still no, I mean, and they was, and that's why I'm saying like for me.
Speaker 1:But I also think that that's something to think about, because those women have a let me. Let me say this correctly they have a predisposition. Most of those women kind of act or think the same. You know what I'm saying. Like when you see people in that situation, when you see a 25 or 26 year old who still stays at the crib, they normally have a certain level of a mindset, they have a certain level of maturity about themselves. Rarely do you see somebody who executes at a high level, who still stand with their parents, unless they're very well off.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying and that's the thing too because I, I just want them to be able to be. Uh, I want especially my daughter to be handed off correctly. Yeah, yeah, you know what? I'm saying so, give more leeway for her to prepare herself for life. Yeah, you know, I'm saying to potentially be handed off correctly that's what's correct.
Speaker 1:What do you want? What?
Speaker 2:do you want your the daughter to directly leave pretty much your household to somebody that you respect and you and you feel that they're safe with?
Speaker 1:I'm, yes, I feel different ways, that'll be the ideal thing that is the point that I'm making me personally.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna make it to where he's comfortable. So he shows me who he is. You trying to scare niggas into the point where they ain't they going to be like you know what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying you ain't going to realize.
Speaker 3:No, it's not even scared. I ain't mean to say it like that, but your presence is going to scare niggas.
Speaker 1:You telling the nigga? No, it's going to scare the shit out of the niggas?
Speaker 3:They going to be like nigga? Your daddy told me no.
Speaker 1:Your daddy told me no. Your daddy told me no is a hilarious statement, bro. I don't know if I can rock with that. Your daddy told me no, me and Paul. We got a bang, bro. What you mean? You told me no.
Speaker 3:I ain't mean it like that, I meant it to the point where you would say no, where I personally would be on a different level, where I personally would be on a different level, I'd tell a man like hey, for real, the only reason I'm letting you in my house is because I believe you ain't doing shit.
Speaker 1:The moment that I think you ain't doing shit, but my wife, daddy, said that to us, yeah, I think when we stayed out of state. So when we go back to go visit, before we was married, I had a different room. You know what I'm saying. I had a different room. You know what I'm saying. I had a different room. I was on the couch and she was in the bedroom. You know what I'm saying. We were in a different state. So not until we got engaged and the date was set, did they even?
Speaker 1:let us kind of get close like that and even then they kind of was still like on some, and that's you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:That's respectable and it's honorable, yeah but like I, ain't gonna be that that pops. They ain't letting no dude in the crib.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:It's gonna be stipulations.
Speaker 2:You and your brother. Y'all can have Potentially have Based on your behavior yeah, potentially be able to have people over Both of y'all having a door open you know what I'm saying yeah, definitely If y'all in the room. It's gonna be stages. Yeah, yeah, first off. Yeah, he probably can't come in. Then, once I be able to allow him in the crib, y'all going to the couch.
Speaker 1:Definitely in the living room you got to graduate, big open space we have to graduate, you know what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying I'm debating on if I want to be intimidating or not.
Speaker 3:That's what I've just been debating on. It's going to be like that. I want to play, you want?
Speaker 2:to be like Den of Thieves. With all the niggas In the garage. Nah, I just wanna.
Speaker 3:Like I wanna. I wanna let him know that I'm serious, but I'm playing Type shit. You know what I'm saying? It's definitely gonna be.
Speaker 2:A serious. That's all in the eyes, though.
Speaker 1:That's all in the eyes, but he may not care, bro, so think about the situation. Think about the situation, bro, duga, duga.
Speaker 3:First of all, I don't know what the fuck that word was, doogie.
Speaker 1:Howser.
Speaker 3:Niggas could Dooga dooga Bust on Dooga dooga, Dooga, Dooga Bust on Nigga, my motherfucker.
Speaker 1:I could not get that motherfucking word. I don't even know what the fuck I was trying to say. No more Booker booker. Nigga speaking of next subject nigga. Nigga. Speaking of Next subject nigga. Why is it that niggas Make sound effects, nigga, when they fucking swing? Have you tripped off that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they make it seem like they're faster than what they eat. You hear me?
Speaker 1:But still I have a nigga.
Speaker 2:Everybody got it though nigga Say you ain't.
Speaker 1:Say you ain't got it, say I'll jump in and say If you go in the garage right now and hit a punching bag, nigga gonna be like Definitely gonna.
Speaker 2:You know what it really is though. What it's you breathing. It's supposed to be you breathing out and you exerting your energy.
Speaker 3:so I mean it's healthy.
Speaker 2:Because you not inhaling you not inhaling bruh, it's all exhale.
Speaker 1:Okay, nigga, it's gotta go the other way, nigga.
Speaker 3:It's all exhale, okay.
Speaker 2:Nigga it's got to go the other way. Nigga, Nigga, all doing all inhales.
Speaker 1:Push yourself out, nigga.
Speaker 3:Hey, that's how you know we some fucking clowns bro.
Speaker 1:Goddamn clowns man, all right, so check this out, so I was watching. You know a nigga be scrolling, so this nigga Kev on stage. They had a motherfucking video. They was talking about what are your favorite white phrases? And y'all probably thinking too hard. That nigga said You're barking up the wrong tree, buddy. I was fucking rolling. I was like yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I rock with that one.
Speaker 1:You're barking up the wrong tree, pal. Somebody was like You're cruising for a bruising.
Speaker 2:I've heard it before. It's corny as mother.
Speaker 1:Y'all got a Caucasian phrase. Y'all fuck with Nah.
Speaker 2:Not a phrase.
Speaker 1:I say cool beans.
Speaker 2:Especially if I'm talking to one of them Cool beans. I always hear I'm talking to one of them Cool beans. Yep, I always hear some like countries You're like, well, I'll be Right Y'all don't know they was talking about.
Speaker 1:Well, that's rich coming from you. Well, that is rich we need to diversify.
Speaker 2:You lit liquor, you lit liquor Bro.
Speaker 3:Classic commercial bro you lit liquor, you lit Bro.
Speaker 1:Classic commercial bro. You lit liquor Bro like that dates you like a mug, though Like if you know that, commercial bro, you gots to be at least Talk about 25, you gots to be at least 25.
Speaker 3:Remembering some shit like that. Yeah, you gotta be like 30, yeah maybe like 30 At this point.
Speaker 1:At this point, have y at this point.
Speaker 2:Have y'all ever had a bad barber experience? Oh yeah for sure All right. So what happened?
Speaker 3:Shit, nigga painted the shit out of me, bro. Hey, shout out to my partner, bro, he painted the shit out of me one day. Boy, I bullshit you not. I bullshit you not.
Speaker 2:Looked like bullshit you not that bullshit? You not looking like I had a paved?
Speaker 3:street on the top of my shit. The same one I'd have now, bro, he I'm talking about painted my whole top of my forehead.
Speaker 2:I was like huh, how long ago was this?
Speaker 3:uh, this is probably like 2018, like right before we came. Yeah, right before we came down here.
Speaker 2:What about you, Ed?
Speaker 1:I feel like it was around. This was 2019 for me, though, but I had. This was back when the nigga had that little man bun, had the little braided man bun on top of my head.
Speaker 1:And I had like. So I was at the place that the girls who did it right. So shout out. I don't remember her name, but shout out to the lady who did my little man button. It was clean. But I ain't had no barber because I was living downtown St Louis at the time. I ain't had no whip, so I was just like you know what?
Speaker 1:it is. I just had to do what I had to do, but it was a barber and nurse. I was like baby, I'll let him cut my hair. Should not have done that. He only had clippers.
Speaker 3:So he lined you with the clippers.
Speaker 1:Bruh. First of all, he couldn't even line me bruh. And then the blades on that mug had to be gone because they was like that shit my hair bro.
Speaker 3:He said that was gone. He was like yank yank, he was pressing that mug against my head and I felt it like.
Speaker 1:It felt like you know how you like have a few hairs. You ever pulled out like a few hairs yeah, you know that like yanking feeling Like, you know like nigga, that's what it felt like he was doing in my hair. It was like scrape the ground them.
Speaker 3:Motherfucking clip was probably rusty as fuck bro looked at them.
Speaker 1:They just looked like they didn't have no blades, or like they the blades was like worn or something, like he needed some new blades. I was like bro bro was struggling and then he had like a guard on it. He tried to like use like a. It was like a metal guard, though I was like what the hell is.
Speaker 3:Oh, tell me you ain't paying me. Huh, tell me you ain't paying me pay that nigga nothing.
Speaker 1:And I I definitely ain't come back when I was messed up because I definitely remember taking pictures and I was like I was messed up because I definitely remember taking pictures my hair messed up, but my edge up is screwed that was at a time I ain't care though.
Speaker 3:I had a stylist mess up my hair a couple times alright, so loud, let's speak another thing so what y'all feel about Taint.
Speaker 2:Who Taint?
Speaker 1:y'all heard about him.
Speaker 2:Nah, bro Taint the boxer'all heard about when him Nah bro Taint the boxer.
Speaker 1:Oh, you talking about Javante? I'm talking about, I'm like who I'm?
Speaker 2:like who nigga? Nah, because y'all heard about what happened with the fight.
Speaker 1:You talking about the jail shit, yeah, he took that knee.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he was saying because he had guys from jail.
Speaker 1:His eye which I feel about this came on, said she ain't put no gel in his hair um I do get getting like my locks have put stuff in my eye but it didn't have nothing on it technically. But getting your hair in your eyebrow long hair carry shit, dust, dirt, whatever like, and if you've been sweating all night and you have freshly done her, it could have just been oil about two days or whatever, like guess what, you a boxer, you gotta fight through that shit until the motherfucking bell ring or you're gonna take a knockdown which is I.
Speaker 1:I don't argue with that take a knockdown, but I will say, like it didn't come off of a punch, which is why I was exactly because he swung.
Speaker 2:I looked at the tape and I watched the fight, but then when he slowed it down, he swung, he missed, he didn't hit him he didn't hit him.
Speaker 3:Oh well, in that case you know how you dodge and, like your hair, flip back yeah in that case no like cause I seen you know, I seen clips about it and seeing the real fight before the clips, you would think that he got punched.
Speaker 2:Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean, so it's like I get it.
Speaker 1:But if you like, no, y'all peep dude doing. He got his legal team looking at it. I heard, I've seen something like that on social media, apparently he trying to get them to overturn the decision. I feel, like Roach Roach, lamar Roach, yeah.
Speaker 3:Nah, why don't he just fight him again? I was just going to say, but.
Speaker 1:Javante said he might fight him, but not next. They talking about him fighting Jake Paul. Next what?
Speaker 2:That's a money fight, but that's what it's about, bro, it's a money game.
Speaker 1:That's the thing. Boxing always been about the bread, bro. So it's like they going to chase the.
Speaker 2:I really feel like, as far as that fight, it definitely could have went either way, either way?
Speaker 3:Yeah, because they both was right getting in.
Speaker 2:So I'm not mad at the draw. You know what I'm saying I feel like it could have went either way.
Speaker 3:All right. So answer me this when you take a knee, they got to count, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's a down to me. It don't matter how you shake it. Yeah, if that man gotta start counting for you to get your ass back up. You're down bro. It don't even matter if the nigga punch that's on you. Yeah, if you take a knee if something happened, yeah, like we would have to look at the rules.
Speaker 1:But just speaking off the rip, yeah like yeah, definitely casual, what the kids be saying out there you know what I'm saying one.
Speaker 3:I don't think he necessarily should have how I feel he shouldn't have necessarily get like a, like a knockdown, but he should definitely like get some points knocked off like he should. It shouldn't be, but that's the case, but that's what they saying. That's what they saying. So him taking the knee.
Speaker 2:That would have changed it to not being a draw.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:Okay, he would have. Roach would have won.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's what the argument is that his legal team probably gonna be looking at his count in that knee.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying they trying to get it overturned. It's like a three-part condition. He said either overturn the decision or do some other things that happen. I forgot.
Speaker 3:Hey man, I fuck with Tank. But when you out here telling people you the best bro, you got to prove it bro, the draw ain't proving it. I disagree, especially taking a knee and you probably been to take an L your first L.
Speaker 1:But the only reason I disagree is because the law of the champion and we all feel this way right.
Speaker 1:Because I know you feel this way about other sports, even when it comes to sports teams. You cannot go up in there tying a motherfucker or making it close, bro. First of all, you're not supposed to let it go to the cards period Decisions. Like, yeah, you're not supposed to let it go to the cards period. Like, yeah, you're not supposed to let it go to the judges ever, bro. But in a championship fight, bro, if you do not clearly beat the champion, then you lost. That's just the rule. You know what I'm saying? Like if somebody come close or they like they almost get it, it's like good, we're going to applaud it.
Speaker 2:But you got to snatch the crown. What Richler say To be the man, you gotta beat the man.
Speaker 1:You got to, bro you got to, and that's just what it is.
Speaker 3:I just thought about this because I'm going to take it totally off topic. Ah shit, you good, I do not fuck with Kanye West, bro, correct.
Speaker 2:Had it for a while now. Ditto, we all have that.
Speaker 3:No, no, no. I bought his little shoes. Everything on his website, 20 bucks right, bought his shoes, bought a hoodie. I go on the website, maybe. First of all, I ordered this shit in January it's March, this shit in january, it's march. I went on the site in february and all of the merchandise was gone, except for a shirt with a swastika on it. That shit was on there for a day or two. Then the website disappeared. Where's my shit?
Speaker 1:in the wind, my nigga.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I ain't even. I ain't even gonna sit here like I'm straight tripping Off the 40 bucks. I'm tripping off the fact that this rich man Are her robbing Motherfuckers. You feel me Like you for real. I was hopeful. I was hopeful. I'm like I bet you know what I'm saying. It's still In my little. You was hopeful. I'm like. I'm like Alright, bet you know what I'm saying. It's still. It's still in my little. You know what I'm saying? My little shop thing. Look at.
Speaker 2:Kanye, send this man his clothes bro.
Speaker 3:No, I'm good, send me my money back. I don't want your shit.
Speaker 2:I'm cool, no matter of fact, no matter of fact.
Speaker 3:Hey Look, rest in peace, my cousin Big Mason. He always said this shit. So in my case, right now, with Kanye West, if $40 is all it's going to take to get that man out your pocket, let him have that $40. You'll never spend with that man again, cool. So, kanye, you can have the $40. You'll never get my support Ever again in life. Middle finger up, real talk.
Speaker 1:That's a hell of a way. Mic drop he lying.
Speaker 2:He lying but nah, like, yeah, I ain't with the swastika for real, that was what. That's honestly what got me when you sent that. Yeah, I was disgusted you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I'm done with it for that did y'all see that thing that they were saying?
Speaker 1:like you got to start checking on a lot of these apps that say that they're black-owned restaurants, that they're not really black-owned restaurants exactly you know I'm saying like you got to start looking deeper into that, because it is a lot of white people that's just using it for benefit yep, so that they can get black beer, or they might be paying a friend a high amount to be a partner or some shit like that, so they can be the face Like.
Speaker 2:Popeye's yeah.
Speaker 3:I was irritated by this.
Speaker 2:Louisiana commercial they tried to do the other day. I'm like but this dude, this fake Louisiana accent, this commercial man trying to advertise this gumbo and this Louisiana taste and Applebee's what yes, you know damn well that shit.
Speaker 1:Coming in a pack Applebee's, they got some old.
Speaker 3:Louisiana menu. Bro, that's crazy. Oh so, alright, I'll put this out there. I heard it on the breakfast club shout out y'all the dude. So so, basically, there's a black man who owns red lobster now yeah, and he's, he's trying to revamp it and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So you know hey, man, bring back the applesauce, random, I know hollering this nigga, but yeah, I think man, what about the biscuits?
Speaker 3:because don't judge me matter of fact, I'm bringing my sister down with it. She this nigga.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I think we talked about that on one of the episodes, because Don't judge me, matter of fact, I'm bringing my sister down with it. She was eating it with me too. We was eating the applesauce and the biscuits together.
Speaker 1:Oh, Cheddar Bay biscuits With applesauce huh.
Speaker 3:So both of y'all was pregnant.
Speaker 1:Discus Nigga shut up.
Speaker 3:Y'all eating. Y'all eating Crisps, fries and ice cream. That's grim. We was kids, bro, I was hurt when they took the applesauce off of me.
Speaker 2:Hey, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3:Hey, nah, for real though restaurant applesauce is fire because Jason's roll house be hitting. Bro, I don't know what it is, because it's not the store-bought applesauce, because it doesn't have as much cinnamon.
Speaker 2:That hoe back there in the back in Burroughs.
Speaker 1:Man cinnamon back there in the back in burrows man home a pound jars we probably in somebody feet.
Speaker 3:Y'all need no back, they back there, crunch. You know, you need people feet hey hey look, all you wine drinkers, feet, feet feet.
Speaker 1:That's what that is when you pop it open. You smell that little.
Speaker 3:Yep, feet feet, feet feet. The good wine. Anyway, you know what I'm saying, yeah, that French wine. Definitely is feet, yeah boy Drinking that feet, feet Boy. That feet feet juice Nasty, oh dude. Hey they drinking that toe jam from uh house party dude was straight spreading that shit on a cracker disgusting, bro, disgusting all you kids, no more bro them high school definitely looked 82 them niggas looked so old man so high I had to like when we was kids I didn't trip off of it because I knew them was adults.
Speaker 1:Now, as an adult, I'm looking back. Like them niggas look older than me now. Yeah. In high school and I'm in my 30s, them niggas in high school. We're supposed to be playing high school cats, bro, ain't no way.
Speaker 3:Nah, like all right, so like kid could have passed.
Speaker 1:Don't talk about them. Muscular niggas?
Speaker 3:Oh no, hell, no, they was not them niggas, them niggas was 40.
Speaker 1:What had to be man Even?
Speaker 3:the Kid and.
Speaker 1:Play. They got yeah they pulled it off. Even Pee Wee, even Martin Martin definitely looked like he might've been more.
Speaker 3:In his 20s. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:But he was all. He ain't go to the school, did he? But he was still Kicking it with them.
Speaker 3:Cause he was the one With the car. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I guess and I don't even think Play was in the school. I think Play was older and McKee was the only one In high school.
Speaker 1:Was it? Yeah, I gotta go back and watch that shit now. I mean it been too long yeah it, have seen it, that's why.
Speaker 2:I zoned out. I forgot about that movie.
Speaker 1:It's been so long, bro. What you think about it, bro? Like a lot of 90s movies people ain't seen, like I had to get my wife to watch. Like original White man Can't Jump, bro, classic.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's because certain people have watched certain things. Their upbringing was a little different. But, like I said, I feel like, at the end of the day, everybody in black culture should have watched A Friday For sure.
Speaker 1:I agree with that. I agree with that A Friday.
Speaker 3:A Friday.
Speaker 2:What else I would like to say? Like Boys in the Hood, but I'm not going to put that on there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because Like Boys in the Hood Men in Society's society.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm saying stuff like that because some kids, parents wouldn't even let them watch that type of boy maybe yeah baby boy.
Speaker 1:Like jason's lyric, like love jones, like I feel like them, like them was like appropriate for everybody to like have on tv other than friday crooklyn uh what else, bro?
Speaker 3:no, what's other than Friday. What's that? One movie Like.
Speaker 2:Soul Food All right.
Speaker 1:Soul Food, that's a solid one.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep. And then you know Love and Basketball.
Speaker 1:Love and Basketball, for sure, for sure. That's why I said them like Ron. Combs the Wood. That's my favorite movie, bro. So yeah, for sure, for sure, For sure.
Speaker 2:If you ain't seen the wood that's a problem, bro, bro. But I know one thing this generation would never really know how tyler perry started where them plays was clad.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about the boo legs bhs yeah, bro, or like the, the dvd man that had it. He printed his own cover in a little thin little case.
Speaker 2:He started in the church doing plays.
Speaker 3:Hey, but see, this is the thing A lot of people don't know. Those are real trenches to trophies, definitions. That man came from the bottom and made his way up. Now, when people sit there and talk about how Tyler Perry, this Tyler Perry, that he got his own studio, fuck you, nigga. He did something right bro, so you cool with him wearing a dress then man, I ain't tripping off of that, he rich, if that's what he had to do to take care of his family, bro, like hey.
Speaker 1:So that's another black movie. Man Wanda, Big Mama's House, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, martin Jamie Foxx. Oh, you're talking about yeah, yeah, yeah, almost everybody bro.
Speaker 2:Big Mama's house is solid, you respect them the same as the man, that who hasn't.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you know why?
Speaker 1:Because I don't know them, keenan and Nick Cannon. Y'all remember them late versions of all that, when they was dressing up as them ghetto chicks in the grocery store.
Speaker 3:Bro, it's a lot of people that dressed up as females bro so it's like real life shit, they were playing characters. Yeah, if my partner walked up with a dress and was like, yeah, what's up, bro bam's tried to slap fire with me, I'd be like, hey, what the damn what you say about the people like, do like young thug or something doing it for Content and an album.
Speaker 1:I was finna say it's a lot of comedians and stuff that be having wigs and dresses on, and you know Right.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna say this. His name is Jeffrey. He's playing A character, young Thug, where he's rapping About having A A A long gun Under his dress. That's okay. Guess what, though? He has, I guess, proof of him having girlfriends, wives, whatever. All that bay and all that they. But it's bro you but I feel like you know how to be obviouslyas be, and I don't really care.
Speaker 1:To my thing is I don't really care. I think you should present what's true to you. I think that's the first thing. So I definitely get like if my partner walked up I'd be like, hey, what you got going on.
Speaker 2:That's not who I know. You as you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I got too many homies to like.
Speaker 3:You think? Young Thug went on the block like that. He probably would have you really no.
Speaker 1:No, all right bro, so I'm going to challenge y'all thinking, bro, I'm going to challenge y'all thinking so. Certain niggas, bro, especially like in hood culture, especially if they crazy, they do shit. And niggas, let them do shit, cause them niggas Is who the fuck they is. Like how you think? Like pimp game and shit started. Imagine the first nigga who walked out With a fucking perm and a colorful suit, like you know what I'm saying. But then somebody, that nigga, somebody, said some slick shit and he slapped the shit out of them and then stabbed their ass and left them in a motherfucking alley somewhere. It's just motherfuckers do wild shit bro, I don't know that nigga was he's crazy enough to probably have worn that shit somewhere.
Speaker 1:See I gotta, I'm challenging you there why you? Why you? You see, these niggas out here challenge challenge.
Speaker 3:Nigga said what you got, do it, choose your weapon we should have really had this shit on camera challenge now look. So look you talking about the man who walked out first with the perm Guess who he was emulating James Brown. So they saw a man who was being a character and they wanted to be like him.
Speaker 1:But that's my point. That's my point, right, Ironically right. Go back to when we was young and Boondocks first came out.
Speaker 3:The whole.
Speaker 1:Gangsta-licious shit. Right, it's the same shit that nigga was playing. Gangsta licious was technically playing a character. Yeah right, riling them copied off of them. So my argument is gangsta licious is gonna be comfortable enough to wear this shit on the block because he know it's gonna be little rileys that's gonna rock the same shit. He gonna hit, they gonna amen it, they gonna be right behind them doing that same shit hold on, hold on yeah, but hold on, I ain't saying shit about anybody's sexuality because I'm not aware.
Speaker 1:Uh, I don't I don't know anything about it. That was a character I don't know.
Speaker 3:I don't know guys, I get it, but where I'm gonna cut that short is that was a cartoon all I'm saying that wasn't real.
Speaker 1:It was a lot of situations.
Speaker 2:I get it. It was based on things people were doing and black culture.
Speaker 3:But y'all got to understand black culture. It don't matter, nigga, how you feel you not walking around here with that shit on without getting your ass whooped. It don't matter about nobody's status. At that point, the block going to whoop your ass that. It don't matter about nobody's status. At that point, the block gonna whoop your ass.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. It don't work like that. It's as a joke. It don't work like that you think it still work like that. You think those rules still in play?
Speaker 3:Damn right, because niggas don't play that shit.
Speaker 1:I think it depends on where you at. I'm not arguing with that mentality.
Speaker 3:Them niggas got to be down with that shit too, then that's what. I'm saying you ain't gonna find too many Blocks like that, bruh, I'm just saying the one he came from.
Speaker 1:I feel like he would have been Comfortable enough to wear that shit when he came from. I doubt it, maybe not before he got famous, but I definitely think that at that time He'd have wore that shit. I'm standing on that Because anytime he going to get out and go do that shit just because bro.
Speaker 3:Hey, if he did, that's on him.
Speaker 1:He going to catch me into this shit?
Speaker 3:Well, first of all, he can't go back there. He can't go back there for about 15 years. I mean you know what, but anytime that I've seen it, it was on some LA photo shoot. Yeah, you know what I'm saying it wasn't on there, like that, and then they played off the gay shit.
Speaker 2:That's what made them more famous. Yeah, I know we've been on for a minute, but look, oh yeah, it's definitely been an hour and a half. How y'all feel about how 50 and the meat situation has been playing out.
Speaker 1:That y'all feel about how 50 and the meat situation has been playing out. That shit grimy because it's, I feel like it's a lot of unknown information, bro. But so my, my perspective and it's it came off uh, me doing some research on social media is little meat, specifically was damned if he did, damned if he didn't right because he sighed with his daddy. You stupid, you you cross 50. He side with 50. Nigga, you crazy. That's your daddy, that's your blood. He'd have been. He's fucked regardless. You know what I'm saying. So he was put in a difficult situation. Now the other niggas you got to understand them, hood niggas, who feel like they name carry more weight than a lot of niggas because they niggas been saying big mitch name and songs for forever. So they got out with a bit of a chip on their shoulder and you know 50. 50 don't really do like shoulder to shoulder. You kind of like your son, you know what I'm saying. Like that's kind of how he moved and I don't see them niggas taking that shit very well.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying so, I feel like it was a lot of like disagreement with how business was being handled, because they wanted bigger pieces and they wanted to be.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying more in charge of this shit, but they had already took over the show.
Speaker 1:They had, like, when Big Terry got out they had already took over the show, but this was over them taking the pitches with Ross right, this is where that came from. You know what I'm saying. As far as like, I mean. But think about it, bro Like about it, bro, like love 50 to death, yeah, you know. But we know that though. Yeah, knowing that, yeah, and already being in business with him, and knowing he's petty as fuck, why would you even you know what I'm saying, like, why would you?
Speaker 3:because, man, hey, because all right, so look a regular nigga's mentality with money is going to trust people. You see what, what I'm saying? And he been in the game a long time. He don't care. He don't care about nobody's feelings, bruh. Hey, i'ma be cool with or without you, cause.
Speaker 1:I'ma get money wherever I can type shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah he ain't tripping off of that, but other people they like.
Speaker 1:oh man, I know he, they didn't even. You feel like 50 was justified or no Cause I feel like At this point I feel like 50 had to. This one thing Whether you feel like 50 Was right or wrong, bro 50 consistent, 50 gonna be 50 and I feel like In that situation.
Speaker 1:People gotta expect 50 To be 50. So if you you know what I mean, you gotta know what lines You're crossing. Like I feel like with Lil Meach, again he was fucked regardless Because once people put him he was put in that situation like he couldn't do no right. There was no right decision. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying With me, lil Meach. He was screwed. Yeah, he was screwed Because also that boy 50, he live off those, live by those, for they laws of power. So he was going to crush his enemy and that his enemy was Meech, so his son was going to be collateral damage regardless.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:So go ahead.
Speaker 3:As we, as men, us three. If we have issues, what we try to do, we try to have conversation we have dialogue, right, yeah? So why wasn't there dialogue on both parties?
Speaker 1:we don't know meech, meech, that's the thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a lot of little meech, I don't know but see, that's the thing with celebrities a lot of shit be playing out online exactly and they be saying shit and deleting shit. That fuck you right there. That right there. I'm kind of like 50. If I see some shit that you posted and it's kind of about me or some shit like that, and I know it, I'm on your ass, boy.
Speaker 2:I'm on your ass.
Speaker 3:Yep, I'm on your ass boy 51 of them people.
Speaker 2:Bro, let's say you throw a little pebble at that nigga, he gonna run you over like he don't, yeah, he don't play that shit like partners, yeah, yeah he, he gonna let you know you gonna feel that with his partners, what you think he ain't gonna do it to you for amen but, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You and you knew that this nigga 50 been the guy we not remember, buck. We don't remember that whole situation and how he treated that nigga. We don't remember all of that. Don't remember that whole situation and how he treated that nigga, we don't remember all of that.
Speaker 3:Nigga, anybody, anybody he don't know, to show up with.
Speaker 1:Nigga. Don't nobody remember Fofty now Like that nigga bro, it was a whole situation Like we understand who that nigga is and how he do business. So when you get into business with that nigga, why you even playing them types of games you?
Speaker 3:know what I'm saying. That's the thing. You know what I'm saying? That's the thing.
Speaker 1:Whether he right or wrong. I don't understand why you would play with that nigga and 50,.
Speaker 3:I ain't saying he invincible, it's just he's not going to stop, bro. He's like one of them people that like if you got beef with this nigga and if you don't kill this nigga, he going to whoop your ass every time you see him, bro.
Speaker 1:And he's not going to kill you, that's the thing, bro.
Speaker 3:He just gonna violate you Every time. He the joker bro.
Speaker 1:He legit the joker bro, he show up. He be like Ha ha ha ha, he gonna laugh in your face. Kill me, nigga.
Speaker 2:You not gonna do it though, are you?
Speaker 3:Ha, ha, ha ha, nigga, you gonna be at the gas station. You gonna be at the gas station, this nigga coming again.
Speaker 1:That nigga is definitely petty, but let's hope we never owe that nigga no money.
Speaker 3:You know Ever Shout out.
Speaker 1:Look, shout out to Fofty, Shout out to all our listeners, man.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to hey I'll be in a power series.
Speaker 1:You hear me you hear me Look, look, hey, if you need some podcast, if you have a podcast, that's just featured in the episode we set up.
Speaker 2:We bring all our own shit you know what I'm saying Shut up in the warehouse. Make me a main character.
Speaker 3:Make me a main character.
Speaker 1:I can do whatever Nigga said. I did. He said, hey, hold on, I whack these motherfucking locks off what you talking about.
Speaker 3:I do whatever I ain't doing. No off the wall shit. You hear me? I'm a new actor, I ain't with all that.
Speaker 1:I got a wife and kids. You know that nigga got a sex scene Every episode.
Speaker 3:I be like I just wanna play a gangster or something I don't wanna do. No extra stuff.
Speaker 1:Definitely. We can definitely play Some Blockboys. That'll be cool. I'll fuck with that, yeah yeah. I'll fuck with that.
Speaker 3:I'll put in some fake locks and everything Holla.
Speaker 1:Holla, bro, that's probably just how you twist your shit up. For the time being, you just be that nigga with twisties. I play a bump. It's always a nigga with twisties on the show.
Speaker 3:I play a bump.
Speaker 1:You got chill, I play a crackhead Alright y'all. This has been Trends to Trophies. Hopefully y'all like this difference In the episode that we got going on. We gonna catch y'all next time. Make sure to follow us on all socials. Trends to Trophies See y'all. All of you Transition Trophies See y'all. I don't love you.
